Vietnam Vet finally executed 17 years after brutal killing
It was the most disturbuing video I ever viewed on YouTube. A crazy Vietnam Veteran meticulously and ruthlessly murdered a well-liked 22 year old Kyle Dinkheller on a service road January 12, 1998. Dinkheller was well liked and respected. He also had just been married, had an infant son, and his wife was waiting to tell him the good news- she was pregnant again. She would never get to deliver the news as this scumbag killed a good man.
The death penalty is fine in theory, and in cases were guilt is undeniable I would support it. However our justice system is far too mistake prone to ever accept this as a realistic practice. Just do a bit of research on how many innocent people have been executed or put on death row in the US over the years
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This animal deserved to die. There was never any question about his guilt. The PTSD defense was so much rubbish.
Not excusing what happened, but how would there not be PTSD involved in that man's actions? I'm not an expert on it, but from all I've read and watched, that really looked like someone suffering from PTSD in a major way.
Again, it's silly to watch a video and come to a conclusion, but it's a message board so I will anyways; From the insane "I'm trying to save my life" to the way he maneuvered around. It all just screamed "war vet goes crazy and thinks he's back on the field after seeing gun raised towards him".
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Not excusing what happened, but how would there not be PTSD involved in that man's actions? I'm not an expert on it, but from all I've read and watched, that really looked like someone suffering from PTSD in a major way.
Again, it's silly to watch a video and come to a conclusion, but it's a message board so I will anyways; From the insane "I'm trying to save my life" to the way he maneuvered around. It all just screamed "war vet goes crazy and thinks he's back on the field after seeing gun raised towards him".
PTSD defense is a bunch of baloney. There is no credible evidence to suggest it makes you violent. Additionally, in World War 1 and 2, imagine how many people suffered PTSD? It must be in the millions. Yet, you did not see a jump in murders in Europe. He may as well say he is suffering from anxiety. No sympathy from me. Imagine the Police Officer's poor family. His kids knowing their father's death is just a click away from viewing on YouTube. I feel so bad for his children.
I'm sorry the cop is dead and all that but I think that video should be used in training as how to not take control of a situation. Once he shouted warning after warning after warning and did nothing he handed control over to the nutjob.
This is the other extreme from recent events where the individual got more than enough warning and force would have been justified.
He was far too lenient with what was clearly a non compliant didn't give a merde crazy.
As for the death penalty I have no issues with it in cases like this where the evidence is a slam dunk.
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PTSD defense is a bunch of baloney. There is no credible evidence to suggest it makes you violent. Additionally, in World War 1 and 2, imagine how many people suffered PTSD? It must be in the millions. Yet, you did not see a jump in murders in Europe. He may as well say he is suffering from anxiety. No sympathy from me. Imagine the Police Officer's poor family. His kids knowing their father's death is just a click away from viewing on YouTube. I feel so bad for his children.
To be clear you are suggesting that there was no negative mental health issues for WW1 and WW 1 vets?
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i'm definitely a fan of the death penalty. I honestly don't care even if it was ptsd
I am in favor of the death penalty, and I have personal experience with coping with a horrific crime. In 2004, I was in a relationship with a woman before I moved to Alberta. I kept in contact with her until 2006. Anyway, she was driven outside of Winnipeg by her boyfriend at the time, murdered by him and 2 other men he paid off, one of which was his own brother on a Valentines Day date in 2007. The reason? She was pregnant, and did not want to have an abortion (she was pressured to).
I have seen first hand, the carnage it leaves behind. I often wonder, and feel guilt about what I could have done to prevent such a tragic fate. I keep thinking even if it did not work out between us, could I not have introduced her to good people, or done anything?
That's nothing compared to what her poor family is going though. they will never be the same. This may sound weird, but I forgave them. However, I still feel that they should pay the ultimate price. Even Winnipeg police said it was the most brutal murder in "recent memory" that they investigated. Some crimes should be punishable by death.
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To be clear you are suggesting that there was no negative mental health issues for WW1 and WW 1 vets?
Of course there were negative mental health issues to vets. I am saying that that has no bearing on a case like this. There is no evidence PTSD makes you violent.
To be clear you are suggesting that there was no negative mental health issues for WW1 and WW 1 vets?
I don't understand your line of thinking. You constantly post things like this, where you take someone's (possibly controversial) opinion, and boil it down to a ridiculous statement, and then try to put those words into that person's mouth.
It's pretty obvious that he's saying that PTSD is not a valid excuse for committing murder. He did not say that there's no such thing as PTSD.
I know you take threads like this pretty seriously (and for good reason, considering your service), so I'm a bit surprised that you're playing this game here.
To clarify exactly why I think you're being deliberately obtuse, his second sentence states that "There is no credible evidence to suggest it makes you violent". See how he called PTSD an 'it'? That means he acknowledges that PTSD exists. He's not calling PTSD baloney, he's calling this defense baloney.
Don't tell me you didn't see that. It's the second sentence.
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Nobody is forcing you to watch the video. I even put up a disclaimer that the video is disturbing unless the sounds is muted.
Well I didn't know that the video was of a murder. You gave the name of the victim, but didn't say he was a police officer. The video is captioned "police shootout." For all I knew, I was about to see video of his eventual arrest. If I knew it was a murder video, I wouldn't have watched it. I would click on a link to read the story though, if you had provided one.
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Of course there were negative mental health issues to vets. I am saying that that has no bearing on a case like this. There is no evidence PTSD makes you violent.
Yes there is. Lots of evidence. Don't worry though. Mental health issues won't stop Americans from executing anyone.
Vietnam Vet finally executed 17 years after brutal killing
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