What he sees for the reason for the early success:
right off the bat been getting goaltending that has been giving us a chance
no different than anyone else, regardless of what else is happening if you aren't getting saves [you aren't going to win]
also the play of our defence has driven our group offensively and our team game
on not getting too excited:
trying to keep everything in persective
encouraging that on the most recent game segment went 5-2
it is really critical to study how you are playing
beyond just getting or losing points - focus on how those things are happening, how you are progressing, and looking at the metrics
encouraging that the Flames are getting better
for the most early on in the season it was praying that the goaltender would stand on his head to give us a chance
but in the last 10-12 games our team has gotten better
how his philosophy mesh with the players that already in place, particularly Giordano and Brodie:
you build from the goal out
the league is so competitive, the line between losing and winning is very thin
most critical position and most pressure is goaltender then your defence
when he came to Calgary he was already familiar with a lot of players - already a big fan of Brodie
to have long term success you need stability in goal and the blueline
still a lot of work to do but encouraged thus far
how does a guy like Giordano get passed over in the draft?
Giordano is at top of the list of good stories about a player passed over at the draft and comes in as a free agent
no surprise when you see the work Giordano puts in on and off the ice
the team has taken on the identity of the captain in terms of committment and unyielding work ethic
it is an inexact science, you see it every year were undrafted players succeed and Mark is a shining example for those players
how do you feel you match up against Toronto and other Eastern conference teams that aren't big up the middle?
Toronto is playing really well, that is not a suprise, lots of skill and speed and a mobile defence
the top teams in the West, you see the Getzlafs, Kopitars, and Thorntons, there are some big heavy teams with skill and good bluelines and terrific goaltending
whether you play the East or West, the league is so competitive
you have to play very well to get any points
this is going to be a big difficult road trip
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the league is so competitive, the line between losing and winning is very thin
most critical position and most pressure is goaltender then your defence
I found these 2 comments to stand out; I think there was a period of time where I know some people here believed in something other then this - and I would agree with what Treliving said here. You can point to Johnny or Monahan or any number of things, but (as 2nd bullet says) - the margin really comes down to 3 players - Hiller/Ramo, Giordano, Brodie (ok I counted our goaltenders as a single entity). Its great Bob got everyone on the same page and our young forwards are far exceeding expectations (and our scoring is at an incredible pace), but our goaltending and top pairing defenseman is the margin for us IMO.
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[/LIST] I found these 2 comments to stand out; I think there was a period of time where I know some people here believed in something other then this - and I would agree with what Treliving said here. You can point to Johnny or Monahan or any number of things, but (as 2nd bullet says) - the margin really comes down to 3 players - Hiller/Ramo, Giordano, Brodie (ok I counted our goaltenders as a single entity). Its great Bob got everyone on the same page and our young forwards are far exceeding expectations (and our scoring is at an incredible pace), but our goaltending and top pairing defenseman is the margin for us IMO.
This was Darryl Sutter's philosophy as well. You build from the net out.
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This was Darryl Sutter's philosophy as well. You build from the net out.
Also Burke's philosophy as well.
It is really nice to listen to Treliving. I think he is very cautious and almost humble in media availabilities. It is almost like being right in the center of Darryl Sutter and Jay Feaster. More 'friendly' and outgoing with media than Darryl was (though I actually really liked Darryl's aura in the media) and the 'sugar-coating' and constant selling of Feaster.
I think his segment is a little off, however, with respect to getting better and not needing either goaltender to win a game. Neither goalie has really lost a game, but I don't think either one has stolen a game lately (though I think Ramo has been much better of late).
I agree you build from the goal out. However, I think it's the one position I would build from trades over drafting. While I'd draft a lot of goalie prospects (but none in the high first round), I think looking for prospects of other teams who are goalie heavy is a bit better. You hardly ever can tell what a goalie is going to be in their 2nd year of junior, or even in later junior years. Do you get a DiPietro? Or a Price. Or in the Flames case, a Muzzatti?
Vernon was the only Flames goalie draft pick that ever panned out. And I thought we had something in Krahn/Irving/Kidd
My philosophy, beyond positions, is you build from your work ethic out.
If you establish the work ethic game in game out, then you don't have the kick the talented horses when they start to come into the fold. They are brought into an environment that already preaches unrelenting hard work from day one.
This is why some of our 2-4th rounders are/will be better than Edmonton's 1st rounders. Because what's talent without hard work, accountability, and eagerness to develop?
But hard work only gets instilled in those who possess the right kind of character. Edmonton seeks skill above character.
Thing is, you can look and see just what kind of things character can do for an entire lineup when you look at Giordano.
Build the culture, then build the talent, through drafting of players that possess both talent and necessary character to be part of what you're trying to achieve.
Just playing devil's advocate here, but what exactly has Treliving done so far? He gives nice sounding interviews, but really, bringing in guys like Setoguchi, Bolig and Engelland hasn't worked out all that well. Raymond looks OK so far this season, I'll give him that. Re-signing Brodie was, in my opinion, his best move.
I'm far from a Treliving hater, but we all need to temper our expectations with him.
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Just playing devil's advocate here, but what exactly has Treliving done so far? He gives nice sounding interviews, but really, bringing in guys like Setoguchi, Bolig and Engelland hasn't worked out all that well. Raymond looks OK so far this season, I'll give him that. Re-signing Brodie was, in my opinion, his best move.
I'm far from a Treliving hater, but we all need to temper our expectations with him.
I don't think there are a lot of fans ready to throw Treliving a parade... but until he screws up badly I also don't see much reason to give him crap. We just haven't seen enough of him yet.
As you mentioned, he did sign Brodie to a mind blowingly good extension.
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Obviously our goaltending, along with our top two defensive lines, have played a large part in our success to date. However, I think he needs to give more credit to our forwards, as we are among the top scoring teams in the league.
I kind of beg to differ in opinion on why the Flames are more successful this year than the previous 2 seasons, even though the goaltending hasn't been much of an issue even when Kipper was still here. It's been the puck possession in the offensive zone and blowing through neutral ice that's causing the other team's defence to back up and running around in their own zone. Flames has also been hemmed in their own zones by good teams like the Ducks and Hawks, but you can see that their puck possession games have improved dramatically with the younger guys like Jooris, Gaudreau, Ferland, Granlund, Bouma, and Byron. Add in veterans with good offensive hockey minds (like Hudler), it's providing more scoring to counter those 3rd period goals that result in tied games and winners in OT. Goaltending is probably a third of the story for this year's Flames success thus far. I just think a player like Gaudreau is showing why he's so integral to the rebuild of this Flames team.
Also, I think the coaching from Hartley has been awesome since he took over the bench. Letting the defencemen go deep in the offensive zone adds so much more dimension to the game than just sitting at the point waiting to defend. That last year's brawl with Vancouver - that was brilliant coaching. His team responded from that point onwards.
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