12-01-2014, 09:34 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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The Phoenix Coyotes almost landed Giordano before we did
Working on Gio's Wikipedia article, and came across this from a 2003 Owen Sound Sun Times article:
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Defensive stalwart Mark Giordano will return to the Owen Sound Attack today to anchor the Ontario Hockey League team's blue-line for an overage season.
The 20-year-old Toronto native returned from the Phoenix Coyotes National Hockey League training camp Wednesday and is expected to be at the Attack's practice today.
"He's the cornerstone of our defence and that's what we need to have back in our nest," general manager Mike Futa said Wednesday.
"I think through all of this Mark felt he needed to have an excellent overage year before he turned pro. He had an excellent opportunity to go to Phoenix and they were thrilled by his camp. At this time NHL teams don't have a lot of loot to sign undrafted players."
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We never would have noticed or cared back then, but the impact of that one decision completely altered our franchise a decade later.
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12-01-2014, 10:27 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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We also almost had Wideman signed at the same time as Gio. We had Gio, Wideman, and Richie Regher all at camp and they all impressed
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12-01-2014, 10:28 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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As an aside, who is the last undrafted player to captain an NHL team?
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12-01-2014, 10:30 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
As an aside, who is the last undrafted player to captain an NHL team?
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St. Louis in Tampa. We lost out on one, and got the other I guess.
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12-01-2014, 10:32 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
As an aside, who is the last undrafted player to captain an NHL team?
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Couldn't have been another Flames captain could have it? Todd Simpson?
edit: I forgot St. Louis was captain of the Lightning
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12-01-2014, 10:36 PM
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Self-Suspension
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St. Louis I guess
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12-01-2014, 10:47 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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To answer my own question, here are the few undrafted captains I could find:
Jeff Halpern (Capitals 2005-06)
Mike Keane (Canadiens 1995)
Orest Kindrachuk (Penguins 197881)
Kelly Kisio (Rangers 1987-1991)
Randy Ladouceur (Whalers 199192, Mighty Ducks 199496)
Rick Meagher (Blues 198990)
Adam Oates (Capitals 1999-01)
Jeff Odgers (Sharks 1995-96)
Dave Poulin (Flyers 1984-89)
Todd Simpson (Flames 1997-99)
Brian Skrudland (Panthers 1993-97)
Martin St. Louis (Lightning 2013-14)
Mark Tinordi (North Stars / Stars 1991-95)
Quite a lot actually!
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12-01-2014, 11:47 PM
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GOAT!
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Adam Oates going undrafted is a frickin travesty.
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12-01-2014, 11:52 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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same Mike Futa as the one in LA?
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12-01-2014, 11:52 PM
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
Adam Oates going undrafted is a frickin travesty.
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Back then there wasn't the scout coverage there is now - so guys could fly under the radar. Oates was also not a good skater. Couple that with the fact he wasn't big - and you have enough reasons for teams to look past him.
Players can have one huge flaw (e.g slack of size or lack of speed) but not both.
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12-02-2014, 12:13 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phanuthier
same Mike Futa as the one in LA?
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Yep.
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12-02-2014, 06:33 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Around the world
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
Adam Oates going undrafted is a frickin travesty.
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Same goes for Curtis Joseph and Ed Belfour. Goes to show that player development is really a crapshoot and you never can predict who will be the next diamond in the rough.
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12-02-2014, 06:39 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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The Flames not only have an undrafted captain right now, but also an undrafted alternate captain in Curtis Glencross.
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12-02-2014, 07:08 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by devo22
The Flames not only have an undrafted captain right now, but also an undrafted alternate captain in Curtis Glencross.
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Jooris had better be taking notes!
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12-02-2014, 08:46 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
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Presumably, that's his high school grad photo, so he's probably 17 or 18.
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12-02-2014, 08:56 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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/facepalm. Yeah, that makes more sense.
Remind me not to post before coffee.
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12-02-2014, 03:11 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
Adam Oates going undrafted is a frickin travesty.
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Adam Oates was in NCAA back then and not a lot of them got noticed until the Flames had success signing players from NCAA. As I remembered correctly, there are some teams who were chasing Adam Oates to sign for them including the Flames. He was the biggest free agent coming from NCAA at that time.
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