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Old 07-31-2014, 09:27 PM   #1
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Surprised they're bringing infected people into the US from Africa. I assume they are taking all the precautions they can but still . . .

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/31/health...html?hpt=hp_t1

The fear began just after news broke Thursday that a long-range business jet with an isolation pod left the United States for Liberia, where it will evacuate two Americans infected with Ebola.

Twitter exploded with questions about the deadly virus, which according to the World Health Organization is believed to have killed hundreds in four West African nations. And with reaction to news that two infected Americans would soon be on their way back to the United States.
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It's a cover story. They will de - plane in the mid - Atlantic...
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It's not really rocket science; as long as they take the necessary precautions, there should be minimal risk, and no risk to the public.

The comments following the article are (as usual) pretty rich. I wonder how many realize that the US has been the site of several small Ebola outbreaks in the past?
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The comments following the article are (as usual) pretty rich. I wonder how many realize that the US has been the site of several small Ebola outbreaks in the past?
Has it? I thought it was the first time with diagnosed people in the US (with symptoms?)
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Has it? I thought it was the first time with diagnosed people in the US (with symptoms?)
Outbreak is certainly the wrong word to describe it. That was my old brain mis-remembering. There was, however, an Ebola strain first described in the United States called Ebola Reston. It was isolated from imported monkeys. The CDC tracked shipments of these monkeys to New York, Texas, and Mexico. No human infections were incurred. One animal handler came in contact with the virus, but did not contract the disease. Thankfully, this strain has low pathogencity to humans.
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It's a false flag operation
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As far as I know ebola can only spread through contact with bodily fluids so as long as they are kept in a submarine like condition with any caretakers whering hazmat suits it shouldn't spread. It only spreads so quickly in Africa because of the complete disregard for procedures in their hospitals
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I think your a little incorrect. There was a study done in 2012 I think, at least I remember reading it where they had infected monkeys separated from uninfected pigs by a cage barrier and the disease not only skipped to the pigs but did it without physical contact. This was a Zaire strain. Now fortunately for the pigs they got sick but didn't die I guess the virus dosen't like lung tissue.

But Ebola Zaire can be spread via droplets but it only survives for a short period of time in that form.

So if you cough on somebody and they get it in the eyes or mouth or a cut it can be transmitted that way.

Ebola is one of the least perfect viruses out there, it kills too quickly to be effective at infecting large groups. It shows its signs very fast compared to other viruses which will travel with an infected host like a smart bomb.
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I think your a little incorrect. There was a study done in 2012 I think, at least I remember reading it where they had infected monkeys separated from uninfected pigs by a cage barrier and the disease not only skipped to the pigs but did it without physical contact. This was a Zaire strain. Now fortunately for the pigs they got sick but didn't die I guess the virus dosen't like lung tissue.

But Ebola Zaire can be spread via droplets but it only survives for a short period of time in that form.

So if you cough on somebody and they get it in the eyes or mouth or a cut it can be transmitted that way.

Ebola is one of the least perfect viruses out there, it kills too quickly to be effective at infecting large groups. It shows its signs very fast compared to other viruses which will travel with an infected host like a smart bomb.
Literally none of that is correct.

Ebola can not be transfered through the air and Ebola doesn't show signs for 21 days... That's a while.
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Ebola can not be transfered through the air and Ebola doesn't show signs for 21 days... That's a while.
That is not correct, either.

The incubation phase of the virus is up to 21 days long, which means you can show symptoms at any point in the interim. If you haven't shown any overt signs, or have any evidence of infection in your blood during or after 21 days you are in the clear.

Here is the information regarding transmission from the CDC:

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Literally none of that is correct.

Ebola can not be transfered through the air and Ebola doesn't show signs for 21 days... That's a while.
I would disagree

http://healthmap.org/site/diseasedai...irborne-112112

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-20341423

The outbreak of symptoms can be between 13 and 21 days.

But it still kills too fast to be an effective virus, that's' why outbreaks burn out pretty quickly.
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One of his last good Jack Ryan books, after that they faded out, with the exception of the John Clarke book after that one where the environmentalists decided to create a world wide plague to reduce the population.
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I would disagree

http://healthmap.org/site/diseasedai...irborne-112112

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-20341423

The outbreak of symptoms can be between 13 and 21 days.

But it still kills too fast to be an effective virus, that's' why outbreaks burn out pretty quickly.
Oh that I'll definitely agree with.
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But it still kills too fast to be an effective virus, that's' why outbreaks burn out pretty quickly.
It does kill fast, but our ability to move from one place to another has caught up and surpassed this barrier. Having this virus in a major urban area would be perilous. This current outbreak is proof. It has been sustaining itself for months.

Thankfully the virus is not readily transmitted via airborne routes.
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Im not sure I am a fan of this. I'm calling it now. The world is coming to an end.
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