Self Driving cars (Split from Ring Road Thread)

[Canehdianman]

The part that bugs me is that in 10-20 years we will have self-driving cars that are a cm or so from the one front of them. I imagine that would at least double the capacity of current roads, probably triple.


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[4X4]

Originally Posted by Canehdianman

The part that bugs me is that in 10-20 years we will have self-driving cars that are a cm or so from the one front of them. I imagine that would at least double the capacity of current roads, probably triple.

I plan on living until I'm about 75-80. I'll be driving my analog vehicle until the doctor takes my license away, so these roads need to last another 40-45 years.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Canehdianman

The part that bugs me is that in 10-20 years we will have self-driving cars that are a cm or so from the one front of them. I imagine that would at least double the capacity of current roads, probably triple.

10-20 years? Quite optimistic aren't we haha. Within the century? More probable.

[Canehdianman]

I think 20 years is pessimistic.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Canehdianman

I think 20 years is pessimistic.

The technology on the car side of things is probably less than 5 years away but you can't really drive an exclusively self driving car unless the entire road network, at least on a city basis, is compatible. Then you also need to overhaul the legal side of things and you need everyone to be able to afford them cause you can't ban the entire lower class from buying human driven cars.

The world where every car is self driven, bumper to bumper like has been suggested, even if we're just talking about Canada, is probably not going to happen in our lifetimes.

I'd be shocked if there was even a "self driven" lane in Calgary in less than 20 years.

[Canehdianman]

Originally Posted by polak

The technology on the car side of things is probably less than 5 years away but you can't really drive an exclusively self driving car unless the entire road network, at least on a city basis, is compatible. Then you also need to overhaul the legal side of things and you need everyone to be able to afford them cause you can't ban the entire lower class from buying human driven cars.

The world where every car is self driven, bumper to bumper like has been suggested, even if we're just talking about Canada, is probably not going to happen in our lifetimes.

I'd be shocked if there was even a "self driven" lane in Calgary in less than 20 years.

Let's meet up in 20 years and see. Loser buys the beer.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Canehdianman

Let's meet up in 20 years and see. Loser buys the beer.

And you'll drink it while in your self-driving car.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by getbak

Think about how poorly people drive on a flat surface. Do you really want to add a third dimension to the equation?

I will let my robot Google car do the flying for me thank you

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by polak

The technology on the car side of things is probably less than 5 years away but you can't really drive an exclusively self driving car unless the entire road network, at least on a city basis, is compatible.

uhhh why not?

Are we going to see the cars driving 5 cm from each other like the other poster suggested?? Not likely, but there's no reason in a few years you couldn't put a self driving car on the road in regular traffic and it would probably be a safer option then a lot of people driving out there on the roads right now.

[polak]

I'd love to see how a self driving car reacts to other cars in emergency situations. Situations where you need to do more than just apply the brakes. Also, how will they handle bad weather? Are we going to see the day where everyone is going 30 km/hr cause these cars are now the responsibility of the manufacturer and you can be sure as #### that they're going to be super cautious?

I don't know. I dont really see the benefits of a self driving car unless every car is a self driving car and they talk to one another. Until then, you're just trusting a computer to make potentially life saving maneuvers at high speeds.

Nah...

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by polak

I'd love to see how a self driving car reacts to other cars in emergency situations. Situations where you need to do more than just apply the brakes. Also, how will they handle bad weather? Are we going to see the day where everyone is going 30 km/hr cause these cars are now the responsibility of the manufacturer and you can be sure as #### that they're going to be super cautious?

I don't know. I dont really see the benefits of a self driving car unless every car is a self driving car and they talk to one another. Until then, you're just trusting a computer to make potentially life saving maneuvers at high speeds.

Nah...

Self Driving cars TODAY are probably better than humans for everything you wrote. When every car is self driving (if that ever happens) and they can communicate with each other, I don't see why you couldn't have cars travelling at highway speeds within centimetres of each other.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by polak

I'd love to see how a self driving car reacts to other cars in emergency situations. Situations where you need to do more than just apply the brakes. Also, how will they handle bad weather? Are we going to see the day where everyone is going 30 km/hr cause these cars are now the responsibility of the manufacturer and you can be sure as #### that they're going to be super cautious?

I don't know. I dont really see the benefits of a self driving car unless every car is a self driving car and they talk to one another. Until then, you're just trusting a computer to make potentially life saving maneuvers at high speeds.

Nah...

A self driving car has quicker reason speeds than you. Much quicker. They can also make better decisions in a hurry

[Krovikan]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

A self driving car has quicker reason speeds than you. Much quicker. They can also make better decisions in a hurry

They also can talk to each other so it can effectively see thing a person can't

[Krovikan]

Double post

[Kerplunk]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

A self driving car has quicker reason speeds than you. Much quicker. They can also make better decisions in a hurry

Until the point where some quirk in the road causes a function to evaluate as a -1 and zips off an exception, at which point the car launches itself over the middle barrier...stupid rounding.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

A self driving car has quicker reason speeds than you. Much quicker. They can also make better decisions in a hurry

I'm geniunely curious, how do todays self driven cars account for the unpredictable action of a human driving in another car that is say, out of control and braking is not an option? I know I would much rather trust myself in that situation then a computer.

The first major accident with a self driven car will probably spell the end of the whole idea. Just think of all the liability that will come with it, ESPECIALLY if the self driven car was somehow at fault.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Kerplunk

Until the point where some quirk in the road causes a function to evaluate as a -1 and zips off an exception, at which point the car launches itself over the middle barrier...stupid rounding.

That will happen far, far, far, far, far less than then when a human does something stupid. And before you say you don't, it's not so much you that you need to worry about. Computers are better drivers than almost everyone. Full stop

[Kerplunk]

Never said that they aren't better....I just know programmers, and code; rounding always futzes up the works. :P

[You Need a Thneed]

Nearly every car sold these days actually uses a bunch of computer power to make the human controlled driving safer - traction control, stability control, antilock braking, etc.

It shouldn't be surprising to anyone that a computer controlled car is much safer than a human controlled car.

[polak]

Yeah but those are all to get the car to slow down and keep them in control. I'm more concerned about the car being able to react to other humans with no input from the driver.

Driver assists are awesome don't get me wrong, but none of them are designed to do much more than apply or decrease power to certian wheels...