Article: What does Cheveldayoff do exactly?

[saXon]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...iacontentstory

It's as though Cheveldayoff doesn't know trading is an option. He's been an NHL GM since June 8, 2011. He's never made a player-for-player trade, ever.


As pointed out by Illegal Curve Hockey in this excellent examination of his tendencies, not only has he traded away more draft picks than he's brought in, which makes no sense for a team that's never been a contender during his tenure, but he seems unaware there are other ways to exchange assets.

It's a couple days old, but still an interesting read.

I had no clue that Chevy hadn't actually performed a player for player trade since he started his tenure back in 2011. In fact, after reading this, looking back, I guess I didn't ever hear any news about a Jets trade other than for draft picks.

Interesting.

[Caged Great]

If you have the caveat of "does this player want to play here" before acquiring them, I could see that being a reason for the lack of trades. It is very unusual though that a team hasn't made a player for player trade in 3 years.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

If you have the caveat of "does this player want to play here" before acquiring them, I could see that being a reason for the lack of trades...

I think this could serve to underscore what is fundamentally wrong with NHL hockey in Winnipeg: they can never really become competitive under the current restraints of operating in that marker, and they can never be successful under a different model.

The Jets are predictably becoming a "feeder" for NHL teams. How long Jets fans continue to throw their support behind this fact is anyone's guess, but I am willing to venture that it won't be for much longer.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I think this could serve to underscore what is fundamentally wrong with NHL hockey in Winnipeg: they can never really become competitive under the current restraints of operating in that marker, and they can never be successful under a different model.

The Jets are predictably becoming a "feeder" for NHL teams. How long Jets fans continue to throw their support behind this fact is anyone's guess, but I am willing to venture that it won't be for much longer.

What that team needs is an experienced gm. If you have reputable hockey men like Maurice willing to go there, I don't think it's a problem attracting players due to the perception that no one wants to play or work there. Rather it's an organizational problem. Like the article notes, Chevy is only accountable to a businessman which was like the Flames before Burke and we know how well that worked. Problem is the owner, who is a good businessman but doesn't appear to have much knowledge of hockey.

Chevy has complained about the team that he's inherited and the need for a culture change but all he's done is re-sign the core, who only made the playoffs once in their history. That speaks to his lack of talent analysis as any reasonable gm would recognize that's a problem. He seems scared or in over his head to make a trade, even though that may improve the atmosphere around the dressing room when you have malcontents like Kane.

As long as Chipman remains loyal to a fault and fans keep buying tickets, the Jets are doomed to mediocrity which is too bad as those fans deserve so much better.

[Read Only]

I wonder if Cheveldayoff has fallen too much in "love" with hs own guys.

There are been a lot of smoke blown up the ass of the supposed grat young talent they have and a solid core but guys like Ladd, Kane, Byfuglien, Trouba, Bogosian, Schiefle have done very little to justify the love they get. If Cheveldayoff is unwilling to move these guys unless for ridiculous returns or even worse thinks that is the makings of a successful core it is easy to see why he just sits on his hands and wonders why a group of mediocre talent continues to produce mediocre results.

Whatever the reason it is puzzling that a team like Winnipeg has sone so little to change its roster despite the results it keeping producing.

[neo45]

The guy can draft, you have to give him that. He just needs some balls. Not like Holmgren sized balls, but like Sutter sized balls. Too afraid to lose a trade but sometimes a bad decision is better than indecision

[Northendzone]

One would think that he will eventually have to do something with big daddy kane......

[Geeoff]

I never understood why the Jets immediately hired their entire AHL management team.

[Resolute 14]

It has been apparent for a while now that the Jets are managed by people whose incompetence rivals Kevin Lowe and the Oilers. I suspect ownership is exacerbating things though. It has to be clear to everyone that the Jets will never succeed with Ondrej Pavelec in net, and there were some decent options available. It seems to me that they keep running him out there because of Pavelec's salary and taking the cheapass route on a backup with all of 3 NHL games.

Winnipeg has all the look of a team more interested in counting pennies than competing.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

It has been apparent for a while now that the Jets are managed by people whose incompetence rivals Kevin Lowe and the Oilers. I suspect ownership is exacerbating things though. It has to be clear to everyone that the Jets will never succeed with Ondrej Pavelec in net, and there were some decent options available. It seems to me that they keep running him out there because of Pavelec's salary and taking the cheapass route on a backup with all of 3 NHL games.

Winnipeg has all the look of a team more interested in counting pennies than competing.

Yep. The Jets have flown under the radar letting teams like the Oilers, Islanders, and Panthers have the limelight of dysfunction but they are every bit as incompetent. It's obvious they brought in the wrong people from day one as an inexperienced GM brought in an inexperienced head coach that quite frankly should never have been handed an NHL head coaching job as Noel rivals Eakins as being in way over their heads in the NHL. To compound things you have a GM that is petrified to make any trades of significance. He is handling Kane like Gillis handled Luongo as everyone knows it's not going to work hell or high water as the player doesn't want to be there but they are holding out for a deal they will never receive and in turn the disgruntled player will continue to be a distraction which will likely hit a boiling point where they are forced to move him for far less than they could have got if they had made the move when they had some leverage. Just a mess.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I never understood why the Jets immediately hired their entire AHL management team.

As has been said some of that was probably done because they could save significant $$$ over hiring experienced NHL coaches managers who would have come with higher salary expectations. That and maybe the owners simply are in over their heads discounting how much experience matters in the NHL.

[White Out 403]

I dont like chevy one bit. He's not careful and calculated, he's afraid of his on shadow. He also signed a drunk driving loser to be our #1 and refuses to buy him out and move on, admitting he made a mistake.

In short, this is what I think of chey:

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He is handling Kane like Gillis handled Luongo as everyone knows it's not going to work hell or high water as the player doesn't want to be there but they are holding out for a deal they will never receive and in turn the disgruntled player will continue to be a distraction which will likely hit a boiling point where they are forced to move him for far less than they could have got if they had made the move when they had some leverage.

But what a sentence that is!

[nik-]

He's just setting the Jets back into their historic positioning in the league. Was anyone expecting anything more from that franchise?

[FAN]

I don't think the lack of player for player trade is a problem as much as poor asset management and lack of moves to surround the core with better players and improve the team.

It seems that beyond free agent signings, all Chevy does is trade for players using draft picks as a currency while letting almost all of his pending UFAs go for nothing while missing the playoffs.

[Jets4Life]

I don't blame anyone for mocking Chevy. Keeping Pavelec as our #1 goalie was suicide. The guy gets a DUI while negotiating a new contract in 2012 and tries in vain to cover it up. Not only is he a horrible goalie but he is not that great of a person to be negotiating in bad faith.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Just as a point of interest, how any nhl player for nhl player deals really happen anymore? 5 a year? 10? Seems like it's really rare in any case. Or maybe that's just my perception.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

Just as a point of interest, how any nhl player for nhl player deals really happen anymore? 5 a year? 10? Seems like it's really rare in any case. Or maybe that's just my perception.

I think I read that in 2013 there were 21 such trades.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

As long as Chipman remains loyal to a fault and fans keep buying tickets, the Jets are doomed to mediocrity which is too bad as those fans deserve so much better.

They deserve nothing.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

Just as a point of interest, how any nhl player for nhl player deals really happen anymore? 5 a year? 10? Seems like it's really rare in any case. Or maybe that's just my perception.

There have been 8 since June 1.