University shooting in Seattle

[combustiblefuel]

Today on June 5th Alone gunman armed with a shotgun entered to the University 1 dead 3 injured. A student pepper sprayed him while reloading and subdued Him.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/seattle...ured-1.2666822

Added link.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/05/justic...mpus-shooting/

[pylon]

I find it quite interesting, that for the first time ever I recall a civilian stepping in, and stopping one of these shooting sprees, the tool to do it, wasn't a firearm.

But arming every teacher and student is still the most rational solution, right NRA?

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by pylon

I find it quite interesting, that for the first time ever I recall a civilian stepping in, and stopping one of these shooting sprees, the tool to do it, wasn't a firearm.

But arming every teacher and student is still the most rational solution, right NRA?

it was only because He had a shotgun and had to reload. He didn't have a huge clip to unload or multiple guns other wise the opportunity to spray him wouldn't have existed. This serves as a perfect example of why assault style weapons are dangerous in civilians hands. Yes a shotgun still is dangerous because its a ####ing gun but this clearly shows If crazies are gunna use a gun anyways it limits life lost.

[saillias]

The student who pepper sprayed him is a hero - I hope he/she gets the recognition they deserve

[YYC in LAX]

Sad for the families and friends of the victim. This stuff just doesn't seem to go away.

I recently completed the Canadian Fire Arm Safety Course and truly appreciate Canada's gun laws. High calibre-capacity firearms are prohibited while high calibre rifles and shotguns have a capacity of 4, 5, or 6 rounds. (depending on the magazine)

My point being, the laws certainly don't make it easy for individuals to go on shooting sprees much like this example in Seattle where the need to reload saved lives. Of course, someone could likely purchase an illegal magazine with greater capacity, but because they are not readily and legally available deters people from owning and using them IMO.

[Anduril]

Looks like others jumped in once the pepper spray was used. Still though, that takes guts to take the initiative not knowing what else the guy could have.

[Wormius]

Pepper spray is really the best way of arming civilians, isn't it? Most people are crappy shots, but at least with pepper spray you don't need to be on target, and if you aren't, you won't have accidentally shot innocent people. Worst case is innocent people get pepper sprayed.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by pylon

I find it quite interesting, that for the first time ever I recall a civilian stepping in, and stopping one of these shooting sprees, the tool to do it, wasn't a firearm.

But arming every teacher and student is still the most rational solution, right NRA?

There was also an incident from last year where an unarmed school employee calmly talked a gunman into peacefully surrendering himself to the police.

With 870 children inside aged between five and 11 years and Hill confessing that he had not been taking his psychiatric medication, the nation was, in all likelihood, staring down the barrel of yet another horrific school shooting.

Luckily for everybody, Hill took as his hostage the school bookkeeper, Antoinette Tuff. What followed was an amazing illustration of calm and brinkmanship by Tuff – all recorded on her call to emergency services – during which she managed to successfully negotiate between Hill and the police.

"We're not going to hate you," she said, referring to him first as "sir" and later as "sweetie" and "baby". "My pastor, he just started this teaching on anchoring, and how you anchor yourself in the Lord," recalled Tuff, who said she was terrified. "I just sat there and started praying."

And so in between updates with the 911 dispatcher she shared her own travails with Hill, telling him about her divorce and disabled son, all the while reassuring him. "I love you. I'm proud of you. We all go through something in life. You're gonna be OK. Sweetheart. I tried to commit suicide last year after my husband left me." Eventually, while keeping police at a distance, she persuaded him to give up his weapons, lie on the floor and give himself up.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-from-politics