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Old 05-23-2014, 12:52 PM   #1
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Icon48 Finalists for GM of the Year: Bergevin, Lombardi, Murray

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Marc Bergevin of the Montreal Canadiens, Dean Lombardi of the Los Angeles Kings and Bob Murray of the Anaheim Ducks are the three finalists for the 2013-14 NHL General Manager of the Year Award, the National Hockey League announced today. Bergevin and Murray are finalists for the second consecutive season, while Lombardi is a finalist for the first time.
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I'd take Murray for the Ryan trade alone.
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No Burke?
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Lombardi would be my vote... LA Kings aren't the way they are without him.
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Lombardi for me. Gaborik trade paid huge dividends and was really ballsy considering how often he gets injured
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Surprised Jim Nill isn't nominated after getting Seguin and drafting Nichuskin.
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Surprised Jim Nill isn't nominated after getting Seguin and drafting Nichuskin.
Not to mention he acquires seguin without giving up a first or faksa
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Surprised this is Lombardi's first nomination. And funny now Murray is never really talked about as one of the league's best GMs.
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I'd take Murray for the Ryan trade alone.
You don't like Bobby Ryan?
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Why is no one shocked that MacT wasnt nominated?
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You don't like Bobby Ryan?
He's certainly not worth what what the equivalent of three good 1st round picks.
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Why is no one shocked that MacT wasnt nominated?
Moves were so bold, the effects won't be felt for a few years. But once the potential of those moves is reached, they will for sure be considered special and he'll be a shoe-in for the Special Olymp...I mean GM of the year.
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Why is no one shocked that MacT wasnt nominated?
He didn't trade enough NHL quality defencemen for draft picks.
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He's certainly not worth what what the equivalent of three good 1st round picks.
WAY too early to judge that trade.

We have to wait and see on the 1st round pick this year

Silfverbeg looks ok. Nothing special so far with the Ducks. Was injured for a lot of the year.

Stefan Noesen is a wild card, was also injured for almost the whole year but certainly took a step back playing junior last year.
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He's certainly not worth what what the equivalent of three good 1st round picks.
So far it looks like a 2nd/3rd line winger, a 3rd/4th line winger and the 10 overall pick.

Too early to say for sure but most of the time quality trumps quantity.
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So far it looks like a 2nd/3rd line winger, a 3rd/4th line winger and the 10 overall pick.

Too early to say for sure but most of the time quality trumps quantity.
Noesen certainly has top 6 potential, and I'd bet Silverberg becomes a good top 6 forward as well.

Ignoring the state of the Flames and Senators, would you trade Baertschi, Poirier, and a 10th overall pick for Bobby Ryan? Because I'd say that's a pretty close equivalent.
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The past three years Ryan has a PPG of 0.68, the prior three years he had a PPG of 0.85.

I know there are other factors involved, but thats not a trend id want to see from a 27 year old player if he were a member of the Flames.
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Lombardi has done a masterful job architecturally with the Kings for many years.

Always surrounds himself with the best management coaches and scouts.
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Lombardi has done a masterful job architecturally with the Kings for many years.

Always surrounds himself with the best management coaches and scouts.
I could never understand why he got fired in San Jose after one bad year.
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Noesen certainly has top 6 potential, and I'd bet Silverberg becomes a good top 6 forward as well.
Noesen(22 yrs old) will never be a top line player, every hockey person on the planet can see his top potental is 2nd/3rd line winger. and Silverberg(24 years old) doesn't have the skillset to consistently stay in the top 6.

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Ignoring the state of the Flames and Senators, would you trade Baertschi, Poirier, and a 10th overall pick for Bobby Ryan? Because I'd say that's a pretty close equivalent.
Ummm, NO. Noesen played 4 years of junor for a reason and hasn't sniffed an NHL game, Silfverberg isn't any better than Colborne

Equivalent would be more like Colborne, Granlund and a 10th overall pick for Bobby Ryan.
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