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Old 04-10-2015, 11:24 AM   #1
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Sounds like something from a horror movie...

I actually think that with the advancements we've made in medicine and surgeries in the last 100 years, that this will eventually be possible. However, this could also be one of those stories that we will never hear another word about again.

"Valery Spiridonov says he is ready to put his trust in controversial surgeon Dr Sergio Canavero who claims he can cut off his head and attach it to a healthy body. Mr Spiridonov, 30, a computer scientist from Russia, said: 'My decision is final and I do not plan to change my mind.' As a lifelong sufferer of the rare genetic Werdnig-Hoffman muscle wasting disease, he says he wants the chance of a new body before he dies."

The cost of the 36-hour operation, which could only be performed in the one of the world's most advanced operating theatres, has been estimated at £7.5million. The new body would come from a transplant donor who is brain dead but otherwise healthy."

"Both donor and patient would have their head severed from their spinal cord at the same time, using an ultra-sharp blade to give a clean cut.
The patient's head would then be placed onto the donor's body and attached using what Canavero calls his 'magic ingredient' - a glue-like substance called polyethylene glycol - to fuse the two ends of the spinal cord together. The muscles and blood supply would be stitched up, before the patient is put into a coma for four weeks to stop them from moving while the head and body heal together."

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Way to go Dr. Canavero! Great plan! I'm sure there is absolutely 0% chance this guy turns into an evil super villain... you aren't playing with fire here at all.....
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Silliness... unless the guy's done it on rats or mice or something it's nonsense and probably unethical to start with humans.

http://theness.com/neurologicablog/i...d-transplants/
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Charging 7.5 million for what essentially is an execution. Sounds legit.
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first thing that popped into my head after reading that:

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lol how is this legal?
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Sounds like something from a horror movie...

I actually think that with the advancements we've made in medicine and surgeries in the last 100 years, that this will eventually be possible. However, this could also be one of those stories that we will never hear another word about again.

"Valery Spiridonov says he is ready to put his trust in controversial surgeon Dr Sergio Canavero who claims he can cut off his head and attach it to a healthy body. Mr Spiridonov, 30, a computer scientist from Russia, said: 'My decision is final and I do not plan to change my mind.' As a lifelong sufferer of the rare genetic Werdnig-Hoffman muscle wasting disease, he says he wants the chance of a new body before he dies."

The cost of the 36-hour operation, which could only be performed in the one of the world's most advanced operating theatres, has been estimated at £7.5million. The new body would come from a transplant donor who is brain dead but otherwise healthy."

"Both donor and patient would have their head severed from their spinal cord at the same time, using an ultra-sharp blade to give a clean cut.
The patient's head would then be placed onto the donor's body and attached using what Canavero calls his 'magic ingredient' - a glue-like substance called polyethylene glycol - to fuse the two ends of the spinal cord together. The muscles and blood supply would be stitched up, before the patient is put into a coma for four weeks to stop them from moving while the head and body heal together."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Canavero.html

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i don't have a problem with this at all. Obviously the volunteer is not happy with his quality of life and probably has no interest in living the way he is so what does he have to lose? This is somebody's personal decision, who am I to say they are wrong?
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He'll still never be the head of a major corporation.
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Not a time to lose ones head....
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Given his situation, I dont have a problem with this at all. It's his choice, and if it has a chance to work vs slowly decaying away? If I had the money I'd do it.
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I don't see how that can possibly work. Basically all the surgeon can do is sow together the nerves and spinal cord, and hope the axons will regrow to where they are supposed to go. Plus, when you severe a nerve body from it's axon, the axon dies... since nerve bodies are all over the place (the brain, spinal cord, various ganglia outside of the spinal cord) it seems to me that you would just end up with a lot degrading axons (going in every direction) and a lot of neural connections that will never go back to where they are supposed to go.
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yeah this has to be fake. it's basically like snapping a motherboard in half, using super glue to put it back together, and hoping the computer is still able to boot up.
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I don't see how that can possibly work. Basically all the surgeon can do is sow together the nerves and spinal cord, and hope the axons will regrow to where they are supposed to go. Plus, when you severe a nerve body from it's axon, the axon dies... since nerve bodies are all over the place (the brain, spinal cord, various ganglia outside of the spinal cord) it seems to me that you would just end up with a lot degrading axons (going in every direction) and a lot of neural connections that will never go back to where they are supposed to go.
I don't see how it can work either. How do you keep an entire head perfused for the umpteen hours it takes to anastamose all the little arteries? To sew an artery, you have a set of loupes on your head and need perfect lighting. There is no way an entire team can be working concurrently because everyone will be in everyone else's way. This part alone will take all day.

This has got to be fake. You can achieve the same surgical outcome by walking into the caliphate and singing the baby jebus song.
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