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Old 05-15-2014, 02:10 PM   #1
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Default Hesla hand's MJK a Moulson

To CMB:

Matt Moulson
2 M

To WIN:

#19 pick
#20 pick

---- > Needed to clear out some salary to fit in my new arrivals and my RFAs
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Old 05-15-2014, 03:08 PM   #2
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Oh I like getting that $2mill....thanks sucker.
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At least the thread title was good.
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Old 05-15-2014, 03:19 PM   #4
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Dave, you can rip off a man once when selling him a car, or you can sell him 10 over his lifetime.

Or so I heard.
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Old 05-15-2014, 03:36 PM   #5
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Wait. So you guys think this is a rip-off ?

Two 1sts and 5.5 M in cap space for a depreciating asset.
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Old 05-15-2014, 03:45 PM   #6
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Well the firsts are in the second half of what is thought to be a weaker draft year.

I dunno if the deal happens without some transfer, but 2 mill seems high.

I could be way off base though. I had Moulson when I came in a year and a half ago and I traded him, haha.
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I just liked the title. deal seems ok to me, minus the cap i suppose. No need to send cap IMO.
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Old 05-15-2014, 03:50 PM   #8
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The $2mill is my favorite part of the trade!
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Old 05-15-2014, 03:51 PM   #9
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I first felt sorry for Dave because I thought he got a bottle of that pisswater that you call beer over there

deal seems okay although I don't get the money part. No reason for that in the offseason IMO
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Even deal. Moulson is worth a first and the two mill just less then a first so if anything I like it a bit for hesla. Unless he selects two bums that end up going in round two.
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I have never had an issue sending Cap to facilitate deals. Everyone gets so uptight about cap space this time of year. Dave is over cap, I am over cap.. I needed to send some to get the assets I wanted.

Moulson makes 7.5 M for two more seasons. I send him 2 Million and clear up 5.5 M in space. Another poor year and Moulson is a boat anchor.

Cheese and picks are just assets in play to move pieces around. What i do with the saved space and picks is what will determine how the trade plays out.
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Old 05-15-2014, 04:29 PM   #12
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I think everyone gets caught up on the cap because the other GM can flip the player, include full cheese and end up +2M despite not having the asset anymore.

Sometimes it can be a big deal, but most of the time it's whatever.

Personally, I'd have added a condition that he sends the 2M back if he deals the player away
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I think everyone gets caught up on the cap because the other GM can flip the player, include full cheese and end up +2M despite not having the asset anymore.

Sometimes it can be a big deal, but most of the time it's whatever.

Personally, I'd have added a condition that he sends the 2M back if he deals the player away
I still get assets for the player. Who cares what he does with him.
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Old 05-15-2014, 04:34 PM   #14
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I like to buy low and sell high. Moulson's value is somewhat low right now but he's good enough to step it up next year, a full season on 1 team.

Ravi and dsavillian both make good points and are things I always consider when trading this time of the year. Value of cap and what I can turn the trade into if I went that route,
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Old 05-15-2014, 04:37 PM   #15
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Pretty even- Moulson is a bit of a risk because it is unsure how he produces without JT. Though maybe he returns to the Island and reunites.
Is he a 30 goal guy going forward or a 20 goal guy. We don't know.

Hesla drafts like crud though, so there's that...
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Pretty even- Moulson is a bit of a risk because it is unsure how he produces without JT. Though maybe he returns to the Island and reunites.
Is he a 30 goal guy going forward or a 20 goal guy. We don't know.

Hesla drafts like crud though, so there's that...
I never have draft picks at the draft. It will be the same this year as it is my kids birthday.

Those firsts are immediately available.
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I never have draft picks at the draft. It will be the same this year as it is my kids birthday.

Those firsts are immediately available.
I'll give you Moulson for them, can't send cash though.
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