My Proposed New Point System for the NHL

[Jets4Life]

Some of us on a different NHL forum have proposed that the NHL change it's point system. We suggested this:

Regulation win= 3 points
Overtime Win= 2 points
Overtime Loss= 1 point
Regulation Loss= 0 points

It would create more incentive for a regulation win. Thoughts?

[SebC]

Some of us on this forum have already discussed this!

[sureLoss]

hasn't that been the exact system every media member and fan has been wanting the NHL to switch to since the introduction of OT/shootout

[You Need a Thneed]

No reason , IMO, why a OT win should be worth less than a regulation win.

[devo22]

did a calculation a month ago using that system and it did not change a whole lot in the Western Conference.

Originally Posted by devo22

did a quick calculation of how the Western Conference standings would look like right now if the 3-2-1-0 system was implemented. There were only two positional changes: Anaheim taking the lead from St Louis, and Colorado overtaking San Jose. What it does, though, is stretch out the standings, of course.

Pos  Team             W-OTW/SOW/L-OTL/SOL  New Points  Old Points  Change

1.   Anaheim Ducks         38-5-14-7          131 p      (93)      [+38]
2.   St Louis Blues        33-11-14-6         127 p      (94)      [+33]
3.   Chicago Blackhawks    33-5-13-14         123 p      (90)      [+33]
4.   Colorado Avalanche    31-10-18-5         118 p      (87)      [+31]
5.   San Jose Sharks       28-13-17-7         117 p      (89)      [+28]
6.   Los Angeles Kings     27-10-22-6         107 p      (80)      [+27]
7.   Minnesota Wild        25-9-22-8          101 p      (76)      [+25]
8.   Dallas Stars          27-4-23-10          99 p      (72)      [+27]
9.   Phoenix Coyotes       22-7-24-11          91 p      (69)      [+22]
10.  Vancouver Canucks     20-9-27-10          88 p      (68)      [+20]
11.  Winnipeg Jets         20-10-28-7          87 p      (67)      [+20]
12.  Nashville Predators   23-3-28-10          85 p      (62)      [+23]
13.  Calgary Flames        15-10-32-7          72 p      (57)      [+15]
14.  Edmonton Oilers       16-6-35-8           68 p      (52)      [+16]

[MrMastodonFarm]

Is this other forum located in 2005?

[flamesfan6]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

No reason , IMO, why a OT win should be worth less than a regulation win.

you didnt win the game in 60 minutes, why do you deserve the same as a team who did win in 60?

[flames_fan_down_under]

2 points for a win, 2 points for an OT win, 2 points for SO win. If you lose, zero points.

[Coach]

Still points for losing. Give it up!

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

No reason , IMO, why a OT win should be worth less than a regulation win.

The reason is to encourage games to end in regulation rather than go to OT. This makes for a more exciting last few minutes of regulation.

Currently teams should be motivated (especially against cross-conference opponents) to go to OT because it guarantees them a half win. If you make regulation wins worth more then teams actually have some incentive to win the game in the waning few minutes when it's tied. Right now they just play for OT. Against both in-conference and out of conference opponents teams would be motivated to win in regulation to get the most possible points out of the game. And especially against in-conference opponents where you want to deny them any points and pick up the most possible points.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Is this other forum located in 2005?

2025. I found a way to transport myself through time. I am enjoying watching this repeat of the Winnipeg Jets-Quebec Nordiques 2023-24 Stanley Cup Final. I just watched 31 year old Mark Scheifele fire in his 400th career goal, while Jacob Trouba was named the Conn Smythe Trophy Winner.

Then I had a business meeting in Edmonton at 1:00PM, so I took the 290km/h Alberta Bullet Train, from the Calgary International Airport at 11:15AM.

[sun]

Yes, they should do this. It's an absolute no-brainer. The way it is now is painfully illogical and makes no rational sense.

They want to manufacture tight playoff races, but unless I'm mistaken 15/16 playoff teams are already decided this season.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

The reason is to encourage games to end in regulation rather than go to OT. This makes for a more exciting last few minutes of regulation.

Currently teams should be motivated (especially against cross-conference opponents) to go to OT because it guarantees them a half win. If you make regulation wins worth more then teams actually have some incentive to win the game in the waning few minutes when it's tied. Right now they just play for OT. Against both in-conference and out of conference opponents teams would be motivated to win in regulation to get the most possible points out of the game. And especially against in-conference opponents where you want to deny them any points and pick up the most possible points.

Yeah, the Wild and the Devils have made an art form of playing for the tie. Once the tie is established they have a 50% chance of getting the 2 points. If they can tie every game they'll have, I believe a 66% winning percentage.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

2 points for a win, 2 points for an OT win, 2 points for SO win. If you lose, zero points.

I just don't see how you can award one team 2 points and the other team 0 points for a shootout. If teams play 60 minutes of 5 on 5 to a draw, and then 5 minutes of 4 on 4 to a draw, it's mind boggling that you can say one team doesn't get any points for winning a 3 person shootout. I'm all for having a discussion regarding extending OT, getting rid of the shootout, having games end in a tie, etc., but to say losing in a shootout is worth zero makes no sense.

I think each game should be worth the same amount of points, whether it's two or three. I prefer the OP's point allocation, but would also be fine with a game ending in a tie and both teams getting one point.

[heep223]

my reaction to seeing this thread appear while F5-ing all day while at work

[puckluck2]

Not a fan of an overtime win being only worth two points.

IMO it should be:

Regulation win: 3 points

Overtime win: 3 points

Overtime loss: 0 points

Shootout win: 2 points

Shootout loss: 1 point

[codynw]

Regulation / OT win - 2 points
Shootout win - 1 point
loss of any kind - 0 points

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by devo22

did a calculation a month ago using that system and it did not change a whole lot in the Western Conference.

Thanks for confirming that Edmonton still would be no good.

[bubbsy]

Regulation win= 3 points
Regulation Loss= 0 points
Overtime Win= 2 points
Overtime Loss= 0 points
Shootout Win = 1 points
Shootout Loss = 0 points

Here's how i'd like to see it. A loss is a loss, and winning in the shootout should be the lowest (least rewarding) form of victory in the standings.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

Not a fan of an overtime win being only worth two points.

IMO it should be:

Regulation win: 3 points

Overtime win: 3 points

Overtime loss: 0 points

Shootout win: 2 points

Shootout loss: 1 point

This would make overtime even less entertaining as teams would still push for a conservative style with the hope of getting at least a point in the S/O rather than getting nothing by losing in OT