Offer Sheet Speculation

[macrov]

1) RMillions suggested the flames organization was concerned about reaching the capfloor next year.
2) Brian Burke has stated his impatience.

Do you think the flames will go out and offer sheet some guys?

RFA Offer Sheet Compensation Information for 2013 & 2014:
$1,110,249 or below - No Compensation
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 - 3rd round pick
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 - 2nd round pick
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 - 1st round pick, 3rd
Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 - 1st round pick, 2nd, 3rd
Over $6,728,781 To $8,410,976 - Two 1st round Picks, 2nd, 3rd
Over $8,410,976 - Four 1st Round Picks


Some RFAs below, and probable compensation:

PK Subban:
Patrick Bergland:
Derek Brassard:
Braydon Schenn:
Cody Franson:
Brandon Sutter:
Torey Krug:
Lars Eller:
Jaden Schwartz
Keith Aulie
Simon Despres
Jamie Mcginn

I love the idea of going after Simon Despres. Would be a solid defense who is young and could slot in immediately into Calgary's top 6, while adding some sandpaper. He's an all round type defense man

I think the Oilers would do well going after PK Subban or Torey Krug. That would be so amazing. Offer Subban 9mln a year, and see if Montreal matches.

[Vinny01]

Burke doesn't believe in offer sheets.

[Huntingwhale]

What a foolish idea that would be.

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Burke doesn't believe in offer sheets.

This. He challenged Lowe to a barn fight because of Dustin Penner, I really dont see it happening.

[$ven27]

Only one I can possibly see is Schwartz, none are worth overpaying for though.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Burke doesn't believe in offer sheets.

Not saying you're wrong, but didn't Burke basically threaten the Bruins that he was going to offer sheet Kessel had they not agreed to trade him?

Yep, seems like Burke is not necessarily opposed to offer sheets at all.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...n-offer-sheets

"My objection was that I got blindsided by it at a time I thought was inappropriate," Burke stated. "This entire process has involved dialogue with (Bruins GM) Peter Chiarelli. I told him about reacquiring the pick, telling him the night before I got the pick that I intended to get the pick back. There has been no blindside or back door like Kevin Lowe did."

[saXon]

It won't happen. There's too great a risk of more Barn fight threats breaking out.

[Vulcan]

We won't be giving up our first, at least I hope not.

[macrov]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Burke doesn't believe in offer sheets.

Not so.

Originally Posted by Brian Burke

"My objection was that I got blindsided by it at a time I thought was inappropriate," Burke stated. "This entire process has involved dialogue with (Bruins GM) Peter Chiarelli. I told him about reacquiring the pick, telling him the night before I got the pick that I intended to get the pick back. There has been no blindside or back door like Kevin Lowe did."

Originally Posted by Artcile

Burke was furious about the offer sheet directed at Penner for two reasons:

1. He "took exception to the potential inflationary effects of offering a $4.25-million annual salary to a player who made the league minimum of $450,000 last season." (via CBC.ca)

2. It came out of nowhere.

Before the controversial Kessel trade occurred back in 2009, there was speculation that Burke was considering going the offer sheet route.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...n-offer-sheets

[macrov]

Originally Posted by $ven27

Only one I can possibly see is Schwartz, none are worth overpaying for though.

I dont know if you have to overpay for them though. Look at Pitsburgh. They have Olli Matta. And they have Beau Bennet knocking on the door. And they have Simon Depres knocking on the door.

Can the penguins have 3 defensemen in their lineup next year that collectivley only have 1 year of NHL experience?

So along comes Burke; offers 2mln for a player like this, and now you have to ask if Pitsburgh will match.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

We won't be giving up our first, at least I hope not.

You hit the nail on the head right their. It would be really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really stupid for the Flames to lose their first rounder next year with McDavid and a couple other possible franchise guys on the board. We're likely going to be picking in the lottery for another 2-4 years, so trading any first rounders would be a horrible move to make (and quite frankly isn't going to happen).

Now if he were to place an offer sheet on cheaper players and only lose a third or second rounder that sounds more possible. But in that case the other team would more than likely match the offer anyway, so what's the point to begin with?

So no I don't see it happening either, but that doesn't necessarily mean Burke is entirely opposed to it.

Oh and please don't bring up the tired Kessel argument, as the Flames are in a completely different situation than the Leafs were when the trade was made.

[Roof-Daddy]

Nobody with the Flames better do anything that results in the loss of the 2015 1st round pick. That pick is in legitimate Connor McDavid territory.

[FlameZilla]

The only decent option I see there is to offer sheet Lars Eller for just over 3 million, thus giving up only a 2nd round pick. Habs likely match the offer though. I would mostly be interested in Eller because he could troll the Oilers more frequently from Calgary.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by macrov

I dont know if you have to overpay for them though. Look at Pitsburgh. They have Olli Matta. And they have Beau Bennet knocking on the door. And they have Simon Depres knocking on the door.

Can the penguins have 3 defensemen in their lineup next year that collectivley only have 1 year of NHL experience?

So along comes Burke; offers 2mln for a player like this, and now you have to ask if Pitsburgh will match.

Well since Beau Bennett is a winger I'm not sure how he equals three defencemen with 1 year experience.

[moon]

Beau Bennett is a winger so not sure what he the Pens defense.

I sure hope that we don't go the RFA it is a terrible and short sighted way to add to a team.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by macrov

I think the Oilers would do well going after PK Subban or Torey Krug. That would be so amazing. Offer Subban 9mln a year, and see if Montreal matches.

Please please please please

[MisterJoji]

4 1st's for Subban?

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

You hit the nail on the head right their. It would be really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really stupid for the Flames to lose their first rounder next year with McDavid and a couple other possible franchise guys on the board. We're likely going to be picking in the lottery for another 2-4 years, so trading any first rounders would be a horrible move to make (and quite frankly isn't going to happen).

Now if he were to place an offer sheet on cheaper players and only lose a third or second rounder that sounds more possible. But in that case the other team would more than likely match the offer anyway, so what's the point to begin with?

So no I don't see it happening either, but that doesn't necessarily mean Burke is entirely opposed to it.

Oh and please don't bring up the tired Kessel argument, as the Flames are in a completely different situation than the Leafs were when the trade was made.

I think when you make an offer sheet with the lower numbers, the other team nearly always matches. The best way to make an offer is with big money where the other team is up against the league or internal cap, so they can't match. Since that involves first round picks and as you say in a situation to get high picks, we'd have to be crazy to do it.

[Buck Murdock]

trade for Clarkson, keep Cammy, problem solved.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I think when you make an offer sheet with the lower numbers

Keep in mind that the player has to actually sign the offer sheet. Most RFA's would want to be offered more than they hope to get from their own team. You pretty much need to overpay.