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Old 01-14-2014, 06:25 PM   #1
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http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/01...er-reasonable/

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Old 01-14-2014, 06:52 PM   #2
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As someone with a severe allergy to both nuts and seafood I think this is completely over the top. The allergy is my problem and I don't think others should have to change in order to accommodate it. As the article states parents need to do a better job teaching their kids to avoid dangerous foods, avoid sharing lunches with friends and to always carry their epipen with them.
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I think that every single child's allergy should be accommodated.....if your child is allergic to rubber, ban all earasers and just let the rest of the kids live with mistakes.....allergic to heat, make the other thousand kids wear coats......

Why not just have a separate room for kids with food allergies and let the rest of the kids enjoy whatever they want for lunch......
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If people would just stop getting vaccines, using wifi, and eating GMO foods, none of this would be happening! I blame everyone but me for this and demand that society take steps to rectify it.
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From Kindergarten through grade 8 i had a kid in my class who was allergic to everything. Anaphalactic reactions to dairy, eggs, peanuts, treenuts and seafood. The response then wasnt to ban everything it was to educate all of the students in the class not to share anything with that child and to wash hands after meals. To educate parents to include alternative snacks when bringing treats for the entire class and tat kid new to eat nothing that wasnt his.

The only time he ever had a reaction was one year trick or treating and he ate a donut after the robins person said it had no eggs. He gave himself an epi pen (he was 10) and we went back to his house. So from I have seen it can be managed effectively even with kids who will die in minutes.

However they are tragedies, and even with draconian bans death will still occur. If you can die from a door handle transfer then countingbin a ban to be effective cant save you.

There have been 32 anaphalaxsis deaths in North America
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In case series of fatalities from food allergy among preschool- and school-aged children in the United States, 9 of 32 fatalities occurred in school and were associated primarily with significant delays in administering epinephrine.10,–,12
http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...26/6/1232.full

So what really should be the focus is not fear based ban but better training for teachers and policies for delivering the epipen. Also is 9 deaths EVER not per year worth worrying about? Comparatively 5 kids PER YEAR in Canada and 18 per year in the US die in bus crashes or hit by buses.

http://www.stnonline.com/home/latest...at-18-per-year

In the end bans are reactionary policies based in emotion and not science and not backed by any literature.
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I have a son that is allergic to nuts and he is very educated in what he should and shouldn't eat. The school keeps him and others at a seperate table for lunch. He carries an epi-pen and knows how to use it. People need to educate their kids and not expect other people to bend at their will because of their kids allergy.
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They should force kids to vaccinate.
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They should force kids to vaccinate.
I'm certainly pro-vaccination, but what does that have to do with allergies?
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I'm certainly pro-vaccination, but what does that have to do with allergies?
Pretty easy to figure out the connection...

Don't bring peanuts to school since you can make another kid sick.

Don't bring measles to school since you can make another kid sick.
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Pretty easy to figure out the connection...

Don't bring peanuts to school since you can make another kid sick.

Don't bring measles to school since you can make another kid sick.
You know that you can't vaccinate against allergies, right?
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Pretty easy to figure out the connection...

Don't bring peanuts to school since you can make another kid sick.

Don't bring measles to school since you can make another kid sick.
Really thats where you want to make your arguement?

So on one hand you have a scietifically backed vaccine proven to save lives and on the other hand you have fear based policies which are not backed by literature.
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Really thats where you want to make your arguement?

So on one hand you have a scietifically backed vaccine proven to save lives and on the other hand you have fear based policies which are not backed by literature.
That isn't what I said at all. I said they need to make kids vaccinate.

The fact they do not make kids vaccinate makes the allergy issue appear silly.

I only posted the two together because someone asked why I brought up vaccinations in this thread. The connection is obvious.
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You know that you can't vaccinate against allergies, right?
Actually you can for some but I think it has a different name.

I think it is silly for schools to ban foods due to allergies when they do not have the guts to force vaccines. Pretty simple argument that seems to confound people.
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