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Old 12-18-2013, 03:28 PM   #1
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Woman wins $324 million on mega-millions and to do a cash settlement only gets $120 million. I know is still a tonne of cash but 2/3 going back to the corp is a complete ripoff. This lottery is funded by cash that the government already collected taxes on.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/18/us/meg...html?hpt=hp_t2
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Old 12-18-2013, 03:31 PM   #2
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It isn't all taxes. The winnings from the mega-millions is an amortized payout so that they can claim to have bigger jackpots. So if instead of the amortized payout you take the cash it is a significantly lower amount. Then taxes take 1/3rd to 1/2 the pot.
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Old 12-18-2013, 03:34 PM   #3
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The $1,000,000 prize on america's got talent is actually something like a 40 year annuity. $25,000/year...and I'm pretty sure that is taxable.

It astounds me that the program would be so cheap like that. You're probably paying Howie Mandel 5 million a season or something. Just give the winner "of the largest talent competition in america" a million dollars. Especially if you're going to keep saying "...and one step closer to the 1 Million Dollar Grand Prize...is...."
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Old 12-18-2013, 03:47 PM   #4
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Woman wins $324 million on mega-millions and to do a cash settlement only gets $120 million. I know is still a tonne of cash but 2/3 going back to the corp is a complete ripoff. This lottery is funded by cash that the government already collected taxes on.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/18/us/meg...html?hpt=hp_t2
How is a gain of 120 million dollars a rip-off?
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At least the odds of winning the lottery are really good.
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Old 12-18-2013, 04:16 PM   #7
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It's not a ripoff since everyone is aware there are different ways to take the payout and they will be taxed.
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Old 12-18-2013, 04:42 PM   #8
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I could live quite nicely on a 120 million.
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Side rant: Why are all the winners always from the ghetto? Why isn't it ever "30 year old engineer working for a fortune 500 company wins mega millions jackpot!"

... really wish I drove down to San Jose to get my ticket now rather then buying it in an affluent area Safeway.
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Old 12-18-2013, 04:47 PM   #10
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Side rant: Why are all the winners always from the ghetto? Why isn't it ever "30 year old engineer working for a fortune 500 company wins mega millions jackpot!"

... really wish I drove down to San Jose to get my ticket now rather then buying it in an affluent area Safeway.
I think it is because more poor people play the lottery.
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Side rant: Why are all the winners always from the ghetto? Why isn't it ever "30 year old engineer working for a fortune 500 company wins mega millions jackpot!"

... really wish I drove down to San Jose to get my ticket now rather then buying it in an affluent area Safeway.
Haha - not a 30 year old engineer, but this former CEO from Calgary didn't need his 40M: http://globalnews.ca/news/1034841/40...n-for-charity/

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Old 12-18-2013, 04:47 PM   #12
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Side rant: Why are all the winners always from the ghetto? Why isn't it ever "30 year old engineer working for a fortune 500 company wins mega millions jackpot!"

... really wish I drove down to San Jose to get my ticket now rather then buying it in an affluent area Safeway.
Did you not see who won the 40 million jackpot in Calgary?
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Side rant: Why are all the winners always from the ghetto? Why isn't it ever "30 year old engineer working for a fortune 500 company wins mega millions jackpot!"

... really wish I drove down to San Jose to get my ticket now rather then buying it in an affluent area Safeway.
Isnt that what just happened in Calgary and he donated it all to charity.

As a side argument, low income people buy more lottery tickets than wealthier people coupled with the fact that in shear numbers there are less wealthier people means that it is significantly more likely that a lower income person will win.
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Side rant: Why are all the winners always from the ghetto? Why isn't it ever "30 year old engineer working for a fortune 500 company wins mega millions jackpot!"

... really wish I drove down to San Jose to get my ticket now rather then buying it in an affluent area Safeway.
Kind of like the guy in Calgary that will end up donating the 40 million he won. The winners I envy are those 18 year old that buy a ticket on their 18th birthday and win a sizeable jackpot. That must be nice.
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The whole idea of a state run lottery is a scam. They collect the money and set a value on the prize that is related to the amount of tickets taken in but they keep a huge percentage that goes into general revenue.
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Kind of like the guy in Calgary that will end up donating the 40 million he won. The winners I envy are those 18 year old that buy a ticket on their 18th birthday and win a sizeable jackpot. That must be nice.
I don't want some 18-year old winning the lottery. They'll probably blow half of it, not go to a financial adviser, and lose most (if not all of it) by 25.

I prefer to see a senior citizen win these types of things - I like to think they've earned it over the course of a lifetime. Donating it is also more likely and much better feel-good story from older folks.

No one likes a punk kid winning things.
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You ain't reading the news much are ya....
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I actually thought you got an option when you won. A reduced lump sum payout or a per year payout for the full amount spread of 20 years or so.
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I don't want some 18-year old winning the lottery. They'll probably blow half of it, not go to a financial adviser, and lose most (if not all of it) by 25.

I prefer to see a senior citizen win these types of things - I like to think they've earned it over the course of a lifetime. Donating it is also more likely and much better feel-good story from older folks.

No one likes a punk kid winning things.
I don't like when it happens, just wished it happened to me.
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I actually thought you got an option when you won. A reduced lump sum payout or a per year payout for the full amount spread of 20 years or so.
This was my understanding as well. I saw some guy on one of those 'The Lottery Changed My Life' shows and he said he took the lump sum payment because if he died, the annuity died with him and he wanted to be able to set up things for his family/kids sooner rather than later, and not depend on the annuity.

As an aside, a lot of my Yank friends/family call the lottery the 'stupid tax.'
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