11-29-2013, 12:39 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Commodore's KHL Adventure
A good article by Eric Francis about former Flame Mike Commodore living and playing in Russia.
http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/11/29...ife-in-the-khl
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Sitting in one of his trademark robes in a university campus dorm at the other side of the world, Mike Commodore still has his sense of humour.
As part of a pro hockey journey that has seen him play for seven NHL and seven AHL teams the last 13 years, the 34-year-old defenceman has finally outdone himself by landing in a city even he had never even heard of before.
“If someone in Calgary is looking for a KHL team to cheer for, I think Vladivostok is closer to Calgary than it is to Moscow,” the former Flames defenceman said with a chuckle.
“Dude, I am in Russia but I am really in Asia. I’m 100 km from North Korea. I’m on the east side of China — Tokyo is a nice easy flight. I’m on the North Pacific Ocean, so if I went for a 10-minute jog I’d end up in the Pacific Ocean.”
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They joke about sending people away to the nether regions of Siberia but Commodore easily puts in perspective just how remote a place Vladivostok is.
“Every road trip starts with a nine-hour flight to Moscow across seven time-zones,” said the man known, ironically, as Commie22 on Twitter.
“The worst part is the flight back. You’re with the wind so it’s eight hours but you lose seven hours. Your body is so screwed. We aren’t flying first-class, either. It’s commercial from here to Moscow. I’m racking up the frequent-flier miles. I will be platinum with Aeroflot in a month.”
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“In some ways I feel like I’m returning to my roots as I live at the Far East Federal University,” said Commodore, who spent three years at the University of North Dakota where he was a second-round draft pick of the New Jersey Devils in ’99.
“I live in a dorm. I eat at a cafeteria. It’s like I am back in college except without the parties because nobody speaks English.”
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“I didn’t want to not do it, and then five years from now I say, ‘dammit,’ ” said the Fort Saskatchewan native who won a Stanley Cup with the Carolina Hurricanes in ’06.
“If I didn’t do this, my career was over.”
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“I came over here for a life experience and I’m getting it,” he said with a laugh, citing the fact his team simply forgot to file his papers while he waited endlessly in Finland.
“The drivers here are crazy — there are no rules. It snowed today but melted so I haven’t had to wear my jacket yet. People literally smoke everywhere, including restaurants … heck, I might start smoking.”
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Eight games into his stay, he has yet to be paid cash via paper bag or briefcase (money is deposited straight into his bank account, much to his chagrin) and he hasn’t seen anything too unusual on the ice. Yet.
“The whole hockey mindset is different,” said Commodore, whose new city is 18 hours ahead of Calgary.
“I always wondered when Russians came over why don’t they know defensive-zone play, and now I know — it all makes sense now. The talent level is above the AHL but it’s just different hockey.
The coaching mindset is there’s no teaching. The attitude here is ‘you’re a pro, you should know.’ We don’t practise defensive-zone coverage or penalty-killing or neutral-zone play. That has led to some interesting shifts on the ice as no one speaks English and I don’t have a clue where anyone is going.”
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11-29-2013, 12:46 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Calgary
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His hair seems to match his personality.
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11-29-2013, 12:51 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Thanks, I would love to read more about life in the KHL, so if anyone has any links.
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11-29-2013, 01:03 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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'Commie22.'
Thats brilliant.
If anyone ever has the time or interest, read Noodles' blog from when he was playing hockey in Japan, that was gut-bustingly hilarious!
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11-29-2013, 01:06 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Haifa, Israel
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Thanks, I would love to read more about life in the KHL, so if anyone has any links.
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Here's russian interview with Commodore with pictures and video interview of him down below, you can somewhat hear him speaking english under russian voice translation and you can see his room and stuff. He's not saying anything parcticularly interesting though.
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11-29-2013, 01:47 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by Locke
'Commie22.'
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It still feels like a missed opportunity that he never took ownership of 64.
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11-29-2013, 01:55 PM
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First Line Centre
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Such a character. I think he was my all-time favourite 7th defenceman during his stint here.
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11-29-2013, 01:58 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Thanks, I would love to read more about life in the KHL, so if anyone has any links.
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If you haven't read it already, Dave King's book on coaching in the KHL is awesome.
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11-29-2013, 02:00 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Table 5
It still feels like a missed opportunity that he never took ownership of 64.
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Borderline criminal.
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11-29-2013, 02:27 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by habernac
If you haven't read it already, Dave King's book on coaching in the KHL is awesome.
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King of Russia?
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11-29-2013, 02:36 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
King of Russia?
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that's the one. Loved it.
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11-29-2013, 02:59 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Originally Posted by habernac
If you haven't read it already, Dave King's book on coaching in the KHL is awesome.
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I haven't, thanks for the recommendation
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11-29-2013, 03:32 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Eight games into his stay, he has yet to be paid cash via paper bag or briefcase (money is deposited straight into his bank account, much to his chagrin) and he hasn’t seen anything too unusual on the ice. Yet.
“The whole hockey mindset is different,” said Commodore, whose new city is 18 hours ahead of Calgary.
“I always wondered when Russians came over why don’t they know defensive-zone play, and now I know — it all makes sense now. The talent level is above the AHL but it’s just different hockey.
The coaching mindset is there’s no teaching. The attitude here is ‘you’re a pro, you should know.’ We don’t practise defensive-zone coverage or penalty-killing or neutral-zone play. That has led to some interesting shifts on the ice as no one speaks English and I don’t have a clue where anyone is going.”
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So Keenan must be a great fit over there then....
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11-29-2013, 04:32 PM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Originally Posted by MissTeeks
A good article by Eric Francis about former Flame Mike Commodore living and playing in Russia.
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Didn't think I'd ever see that on CP
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11-29-2013, 05:13 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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The coaching mindset is there’s no teaching. The attitude here is ‘you’re a pro, you should know.’ We don’t practise defensive-zone coverage or penalty-killing or neutral-zone play. That has led to some interesting shifts on the ice as no one speaks English and I don’t have a clue where anyone is going.”
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I found this hilariously arrogant. I am pretty sure there is a lot of coaching and teaching going on there. Players like Malkin, Ovechkin and Datsyuk don't just grow in trees all by themselves. A Russian player coming to NHL is fully expected to have at least some rudimentary knowledge of English, so that he can communicate with the coaching staff and his teammates. Why should this expectation be any different for an NHL player going to KHL?
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11-30-2013, 07:27 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Haifa, Israel
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wrong thread
Last edited by Pointman; 11-30-2013 at 07:30 AM.
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11-30-2013, 07:30 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
I found this hilariously arrogant. I am pretty sure there is a lot of coaching and teaching going on there. Players like Malkin, Ovechkin and Datsyuk don't just grow in trees all by themselves. A Russian player coming to NHL is fully expected to have at least some rudimentary knowledge of English, so that he can communicate with the coaching staff and his teammates. Why should this expectation be any different for an NHL player going to KHL?
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Where does he say that anyone should be speaking English? He simply points out they don't and it leads to confusion for him.
Wow, arrogant? Really?
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11-30-2013, 01:20 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Haparanda
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in another KHL news: Jonathan Cheechoo was voted for the opening All-star team.
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11-30-2013, 01:45 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
A Russian player coming to NHL is fully expected to have at least some rudimentary knowledge of English, so that he can communicate with the coaching staff and his teammates. Why should this expectation be any different for an NHL player going to KHL?
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Roman Cervenka says hi.
(I get he's not Russian, but same thing)
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11-30-2013, 01:47 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Did anyone else look for page 2???
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