Marc-Andre Fleury - Do you take a chance? - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

the_only_turek_fan · 05-11-2013, 03:18 PM

The Flames are rebuilding team, and with Kiprusoff's anticipated retirement, do you at least kick tires to see what it would take to get him IF Pittsburgh decides to go in another direction in goal?

Or is Feaster and co. comfortable with Ramo and MacDonald for next season.

PlayfulGenius · 05-11-2013, 03:20 PM

I'd be looking at this only from the stand point of getting something else from PIT for doing them a favor... especially if Kipper could be talked out of retiring for a chance to play with PIT for a final season.

TurnedTheCorner · 05-11-2013, 03:23 PM

If the goal is a top 5 pick for the remainder of Fleury's contract (2 years), why not? If the expectation is for him to improve the goaltending, absolutely not.

jayswin · 05-11-2013, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

The Flames are rebuilding team, and with Kiprusoff's anticipated retirement, do you at least kick tires to see what it would take to get him IF Pittsburgh decides to go in another direction in goal?

Or is Feaster and co. comfortable with Ramo and MacDonald for next season.

It would be an odd move for sure. He's shaky as ****, and can't be relied upon as a starter. Not sure how that fits in with where the Flames are at. He would just take away games that need to be available for our goaltending prospects.

the_only_turek_fan · 05-11-2013, 03:23 PM

Capgeek has his salary listed at $5M for 2013-14 and 2014-15.

With the cap coming down, PIT might want to unload this salary.

Red John · 05-11-2013, 03:23 PM

Fleury has his faults but decent goalies are difficult to find and the Flames could end up having a long search for a No. 1 after this season. Sure there's guys like Brossoit and Gillies but those guys aren't blue chippers and you can't count on their emergence. It's such a crapshoot.

If the trade cost is reasonable absolutely you try and get him. Shero is a savvy GM who won't be letting him go for a song though.

the_only_turek_fan · 05-11-2013, 03:24 PM

The whole premise here is that a change will help him and allow him to find his game again. It would be a total gamble, however the Flames are in a position to take that gamble, IMO.

jayswin · 05-11-2013, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Capgeek has his salary listed at $5M for 2013-14 and 2014-15.

With the cap coming down, PIT might want to unload this salary.

As any team that has Marc Andre Fluery at $5mil would want to.

dissentowner · 05-11-2013, 03:36 PM

No.

dammage79 · 05-11-2013, 03:39 PM

Rather take my chances with Ramo and Berra personally.

Caged Great · 05-11-2013, 03:40 PM

If he cost nothing to acquire, then sure why not. I wouldn't give anything up for him though.

RyZ · 05-11-2013, 03:42 PM

I'd take him for the next 2 years and then re-evaluate when his contract comes up. We aren't going to compete for anything until that time so why not take a chance that he regains his form?

Even better if he gets bought out and you can sign him for 2.5 per or something like that.

FlameZilla · 05-11-2013, 03:45 PM

I doubt the Penguins are giving up on Fleury anytime soon. Vokoun's performance likely lights a fire under his arse & he plays lights-out for the rest of the POs.

dissentowner · 05-11-2013, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

I doubt the Penguins are giving up on Fleury anytime soon. Vokoun's performance likely lights a fire under his arse & he plays lights-out for the rest of the POs.

I think Vokoun is a good goalie and will play well, I don't see MAF getting a chance to get back in.

Fire · 05-11-2013, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red John

Fleury has his faults but decent goalies are difficult to find and the Flames could end up having a long search for a No. 1 after this season. Sure there's guys like Brossoit and Gillies but those guys aren't blue chippers and you can't count on their emergence. It's such a crapshoot.

I don't have high hopes with Brossoit but Gilles will most likely be the starter for the 2014 U.S World Junior team. He was the best goalie in the Hockey East in his first season. For a goalie prospect it doesn't get much better.

Getting Fleury doesn't make much sense to me because he is only a slight improvement over what the Flames will have next season. Bernier would make more sense IMO.

Mr.Coffee · 05-11-2013, 04:06 PM

I'm not a fan of Fleury to begin with and that series with the Islanders would already be over if not for him, but more to the point:

What the Flames have finally and refreshingly done is walked away from the mode of simply acquiring name players for the sake of reputation. Now I would never state that simply ignoring all star players is what needs to be done, but rather my point is that the Flames are moving in a new direction and as tempting as it will be to utilize all this cap space on name guys and free agency, we really need to build from within, at all positions and this should be Calgary's focus, not just signing and trading and thinking they'll be contending next year for a playoff spot. It's unlikely to happen, so continue with a plan of 3-5 years of growth into a major contender and acquiring as much youth and potential and options as you can.

So having stated the above, why don't we let the 4 or so goaltenders in the organization fight it out and earn the starting position. I have a feeling that Berra, Ramo, Macdonald and company will be every bit as good as what Fleury can bring to the table too.

madmike · 05-11-2013, 04:13 PM

Not a fan of Fleury at all. If the Flames are going to roll the dice I'd rather it be on a goalie who would cost less.

At this point Fleury is what he is - a star on some nights but remarkably inconsistent. I'd call him Luongo Jr. but I don't think he's as good as Luongo was in his prime.

nightfx · 05-11-2013, 04:15 PM

Never thought Fleury was anything more than an average goalie, so no.

kyuss275 · 05-11-2013, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I'm not a fan of Fleury to begin with and that series with the Islanders would already be over if not for him, but more to the point:

What the Flames have finally and refreshingly done is walked away from the mode of simply acquiring name players for the sake of reputation. Now I would never state that simply ignoring all star players is what needs to be done, but rather my point is that the Flames are moving in a new direction and as tempting as it will be to utilize all this cap space on name guys and free agency, we really need to build from within, at all positions and this should be Calgary's focus, not just signing and trading and thinking they'll be contending next year for a playoff spot. It's unlikely to happen, so continue with a plan of 3-5 years of growth into a major contender and acquiring as much youth and potential and options as you can.

So having stated the above, why don't we let the 4 or so goaltenders in the organization fight it out and earn the starting position. I have a feeling that Berra, Ramo, Macdonald and company will be every bit as good as what Fleury can bring to the table too.

I would be amazed if any of the 3 ended up as good as Fleury. Fleury seems to have a mental thing going on when it comes to playoffs. I have seen him during the regualr season and he is a good goalie.

Not sure the Penguins can give up on him already. Do they have anybody in the system to replace him?

PlayfulGenius · 05-11-2013, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmike

Not a fan of Fleury at all. If the Flames are going to roll the dice I'd rather it be on a goalie who would cost less.

At this point Fleury is what he is - a star on some nights but remarkably inconsistent. I'd call him Luongo Jr. but I don't think he's as good as Luongo was in his prime.

uh... he's not even close!!