WWE News: Cleaning House

[Prototype]

Joy Giovanni
Kenzo Suzuki
Matt Morgan
Charlie Haas
Jackie Gayda
Marty Jannetty
Dawn Marie
Mark Jindrak
Maven
Shannon Moore
James Yun (Akio)
David Heath (Gangrel)
Billy Kidman
Spike Dudley
Kevin Fertig

I've also heard that the Dudley Boys (Bubba Ray and Devon) have not been offered a new contract either. Not released, but not re-signed.

I'd say the only suprise would be the Dudleys, but then again they have been killing the tag team division. It doesn't have the same feel as the days of the Heart Foundation and Demolition. Other than that, wasted tallent. Maven surprised me too cause of the Tough Enough connection.

Rumour has it that they are either getting rid of tallent that isn't used, or that they are cutting all these people so they can afford the return of Brock Lesnar.

I don't think this is the last of the list either. The list was about 6 names deep this morning.

[Agamemnon]

When was the last time Gangrel fought a match on TV? I thought that guy was ancient history, though, I haven't watched in 3-4 years (_hated_ the direction McMahon was going).

[Prototype]

Originally posted by Agamemnon@Jul 6 2005, 02:35 PM
When was the last time Gangrel fought a match on TV? I thought that guy was ancient history, though, I haven't watched in 3-4 years (_hated_ the direction McMahon was going).

Made a return with Visera during the Untertaker/JBL feud, against the deadman. I guess Big Vis caought on... Gangrel didn't.

The other thing that I just figured out... Marty Janetty was released again, and Marty Janetty 2005 (Charlies Hass) too... Looks like their respective tag team partners will get all the glory (Michaels and Benjamin)

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by Prottotype+Jul 6 2005, 09:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Prottotype @ Jul 6 2005, 09:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agamemnon@Jul 6 2005, 02:35 PM
When was the last time Gangrel fought a match on TV? I thought that guy was ancient history, though, I haven't watched in 3-4 years (_hated_ the direction McMahon was going).

Made a return with Visera during the Untertaker/JBL feud, against the deadman. I guess Big Vis caought on... Gangrel didn't.

The other thing that I just figured out... Marty Janetty was released again, and Marty Janetty 2005 (Charlies Hass) too... Looks like their respective tag team partners will get all the glory (Michaels and Benjamin) [/b][/quote]
Man, I caught a glimpse of a recent episode and saw Viscera playing the 'Mark Henry Sexy Black Guy'... though, Viscera, being a disgusting person, didn't pull it off for me.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally posted by Agamemnon+Jul 6 2005, 07:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agamemnon @ Jul 6 2005, 07:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Made a return with Visera during the Untertaker/JBL feud, against the deadman. I guess Big Vis caought on... Gangrel didn't.

The other thing that I just figured out... Marty Janetty was released again, and Marty Janetty 2005 (Charlies Hass) too... Looks like their respective tag team partners will get all the glory (Michaels and Benjamin)

Man, I caught a glimpse of a recent episode and saw Viscera playing the 'Mark Henry Sexy Black Guy'... though, Viscera, being a disgusting person, didn't pull it off for me. [/b][/quote]
that's the point, he's acting sexy, but isn't. Quite funny actually

[Super-Rye]

On wwe.com:

BREAKING NEWS: Brock Lesnar to meet with WWE officials

Sounds like Lesnar's coming back, but where will he wrestle? Raw? or Smackdown?

[Ozy_Flame]

More releases to come, hey? I'm not surprised. This looks to me like WWE is cleaning house because they'll have almost no use anymore for Sunday Night Heat or Velocity anymore, especially given the change of broadcasting channels coming this fall.

I actually support this liquidation of sorts; we have to remember that Vince is running a business (albeit a dysfunctional one at that), and these kinds of things are necessary for a business that's going through some compartively rough times.

And as much as I'd like to believe it isn't true, the WWE cleaning house to make contract room for Lesnar is not a bad move. The guy is an instant draw and a surefire bet to make market and make money on. None of those let go had any drawing power (save the Dudleys a few years back).

My next guess is that Scotty Too Hotty, Tyson Tomko, Doug Basham, Michelle McCool, Sylvain Grenier, Candice Michelle, Ivory, Val Venis, and Robert Conway get the boot. I'm sure people like these are crapping their pants over a pending pink slip.

[Cowboy]

Originally posted by Agamemnon+Jul 6 2005, 04:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agamemnon @ Jul 6 2005, 04:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Made a return with Visera during the Untertaker/JBL feud, against the deadman. I guess Big Vis caought on... Gangrel didn't.

The other thing that I just figured out... Marty Janetty was released again, and Marty Janetty 2005 (Charlies Hass) too... Looks like their respective tag team partners will get all the glory (Michaels and Benjamin)

Man, I caught a glimpse of a recent episode and saw Viscera playing the 'Mark Henry Sexy Black Guy'... though, Viscera, being a disgusting person, didn't pull it off for me. [/b][/quote]
Well sorry I am going to have to say it....

Mark Henry pulled it off for you? Or did he just pull it for.......uhhh...nevermind.

[Inferno]

Originally posted by Super-Rye@Jul 6 2005, 06:19 PM
On wwe.com:

BREAKING NEWS: Brock Lesnar to meet with WWE officials

Sounds like Lesnar's coming back, but where will he wrestle? Raw? or Smackdown?

rajah.com is saying he'll probably go to Smackdown to feud with Batista.

[the crispy badger]

Originally posted by Ozy_Flame@Jul 6 2005, 05:27 PM
More releases to come, hey? I'm not surprised. This looks to me like WWE is cleaning house because they'll have almost no use anymore for Sunday Night Heat or Velocity anymore, especially given the change of broadcasting channels coming this fall.

I actually support this liquidation of sorts; we have to remember that Vince is running a business (albeit a dysfunctional one at that), and these kinds of things are necessary for a business that's going through some compartively rough times.

And as much as I'd like to believe it isn't true, the WWE cleaning house to make contract room for Lesnar is not a bad move. The guy is an instant draw and a surefire bet to make market and make money on. None of those let go had any drawing power (save the Dudleys a few years back).

My next guess is that Scotty Too Hotty, Tyson Tomko, Doug Basham, Michelle McCool, Sylvain Grenier, Candice Michelle, Ivory, Val Venis, and Robert Conway get the boot. I'm sure people like these are crapping their pants over a pending pink slip.

Getting rid of Rob Conway would be a mistake..he has alot of raw tools to be a star..he's not going anywheres I believe

[The Familia]

It is estimated that the WWE will lose over $10 million in advertising dollars come the TV network switch. McMahon owns 100% of the wrestling industry, and lack of competition is hurting him big time. McMahon had to look all big and cool after buying WCW and taking down ECW. His main idea was to just show the world he was #1. This has backfired on him badly. Ratings are down (only 2.6 for RAW this last week compared to such record breaking crowds in the late 90's of 8.0 - 8.5), attendance has slumped bad in most cities in America and Canada. McMahon has screwed out 100's of wrestlers who used to work for WCW and ECW. What happened to the glory days of pro wrestling? McMahon killed it, and sooner rather than later will slowly choke himself into submission.

[HumanTorch]

Originally posted by The Familia@Jul 6 2005, 09:24 PM
It is estimated that the WWE will lose over $10 million in advertising dollars come the TV network switch. McMahon owns 100% of the wrestling industry, and lack of competition is hurting him big time. McMahon had to look all big and cool after buying WCW and taking down ECW. His main idea was to just show the world he was #1. This has backfired on him badly. Ratings are down (only 2.6 for RAW this last week compared to such record breaking crowds in the late 90's of 8.0 - 8.5), attendance has slumped bad in most cities in America and Canada. McMahon has screwed out 100's of wrestlers who used to work for WCW and ECW. What happened to the glory days of pro wrestling? McMahon killed it, and sooner rather than later will slowly choke himself into submission.

Very good post and well said. I agree that McMahon has killed the wrestling industry.

I used to watch all the time back in the mid to late '90s because it was actually very entertaining and had some great twists and matches. Not to mention WWF was in a bitter war with WCW which made things that much better. The wrestlers themselves these days are just not as good nor entertaining in my opinion. I loved having guys like the Rock, Stone Cold, Mankind, Triple H, New Ahe Outlaws, DX etc headlineing the business.

[Deelow]

Mary Jenetty was back?

[Hakan]

Originally posted by The Familia@Jul 6 2005, 09:24 PM
It is estimated that the WWE will lose over $10 million in advertising dollars come the TV network switch. McMahon owns 100% of the wrestling industry, and lack of competition is hurting him big time. McMahon had to look all big and cool after buying WCW and taking down ECW. His main idea was to just show the world he was #1. This has backfired on him badly. Ratings are down (only 2.6 for RAW this last week compared to such record breaking crowds in the late 90's of 8.0 - 8.5), attendance has slumped bad in most cities in America and Canada. McMahon has screwed out 100's of wrestlers who used to work for WCW and ECW. What happened to the glory days of pro wrestling? McMahon killed it, and sooner rather than later will slowly choke himself into submission.

Good post. I used to be a very big WWF fan until the horrible handling of what could have been the best angle in the history of pro wrestling, the 2 way invasion of the WWF by WCW and ECW. Instead what we got was the most wasted opportunity I have ever seen with McMahon using that angle as an opportunity to show just how much better the WWF wrestlers were by quashing everyone and having no real sense of competition. Since that era, the WWF has sucked major balls and they only have themselves to blame.

[StoneCole]

Originally posted by The Familia@Jul 7 2005, 04:24 AM
It is estimated that the WWE will lose over $10 million in advertising dollars come the TV network switch. McMahon owns 100% of the wrestling industry, and lack of competition is hurting him big time. McMahon had to look all big and cool after buying WCW and taking down ECW. His main idea was to just show the world he was #1. This has backfired on him badly. Ratings are down (only 2.6 for RAW this last week compared to such record breaking crowds in the late 90's of 8.0 - 8.5), attendance has slumped bad in most cities in America and Canada. McMahon has screwed out 100's of wrestlers who used to work for WCW and ECW. What happened to the glory days of pro wrestling? McMahon killed it, and sooner rather than later will slowly choke himself into submission.

I disagree completely and I'm gonna' tell you why:

If you're gonna argue that Mcmahon killed the industry, you also have to acknowledge that he's the one that brought it to prominance. Vince bought out WCW and ECW because he knew that wrestling was booming and that the market was going to go on the decline. It has. The reason for all the releases and the low ratings is because the industry has experienced a decline.

[Inferno]

Originally posted by Deelow@Jul 7 2005, 01:55 PM
Mary Jenetty was back?

After his tag team match with Shawn Michaels and match against Kurt Angle a couple months ago the WWE signed him but he hasnt been on TV since and not too long ago he got a DUI.

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by StoneCole@Jul 7 2005, 07:26 PM
I disagree completely and I'm gonna' tell you why:

If you're gonna argue that Mcmahon killed the industry, you also have to acknowledge that he's the one that brought it to prominance. Vince bought out WCW and ECW because he knew that wrestling was booming and that the market was going to go on the decline. It has. The reason for all the releases and the low ratings is because the industry has experienced a decline.

I'm not certain your logic is %100.

Vince McMahon is certainly the father of wrestling in North America, no doubt about it (his dad is probably the grandfather). That said, I don't think wrestling was 'doomed' to decline necessarily. I think the Monday Night Wars had a HUGE part in making the industry what it was. Once McMahon eliminated all of his competition, I think the drive to beat the other federations was gone, and creativity and quality declined.

I really think Vince dropped the ball when he merged WCW/ECW/WWE. I think there were some _classic_ scenarios that could have been written, not least of which should have been the revival of DX as soon as Michaels, Nash, and Gunn were all in the same company again (Road Dogg was history at that point I think).

I dunno... seems like Vince had the world in his hands, and now the business is starting (just starting, mind you) to go really south.

[calculoso]

Of course it's going south. Have you watched WWE lately?

There is too much promotion and storyline (aka talking) and not enough actual wrestling. Even when there is wrestling, it is way way too scripted and predictable. Take Hulk Hogan's last x matches.. all the same. Hulk gets beaten down, Hulks up, boot in the face, leg drop.... etc.

The WWE needs more unpredictability and more action. Maybe even go back to the 1 hr timeslot instead of the 2 hr one, if they can't fill the 2 hrs with action. Enough with the wedding crap. Feuds are okay, but don't drag them on forever. Triple H vs Batista was okay, but went on forever. Guerrero (sp?) vs Rey Mysterio.. same thing. Variety. Have people tune in to see what the matches will be, instead of knowing it'll be the same ole same ole crap.

[the crispy badger]

Originally posted by calculoso@Jul 7 2005, 03:08 PM
Of course it's going south. Have you watched WWE lately?

There is too much promotion and storyline (aka talking) and not enough actual wrestling. Even when there is wrestling, it is way way too scripted and predictable. Take Hulk Hogan's last x matches.. all the same. Hulk gets beaten down, Hulks up, boot in the face, leg drop.... etc.

The WWE needs more unpredictability and more action. Maybe even go back to the 1 hr timeslot instead of the 2 hr one, if they can't fill the 2 hrs with action. Enough with the wedding crap. Feuds are okay, but don't drag them on forever. Triple H vs Batista was okay, but went on forever. Guerrero (sp?) vs Rey Mysterio.. same thing. Variety. Have people tune in to see what the matches will be, instead of knowing it'll be the same ole same ole crap.

Actually Hogan hasn't had a singles match in years..it's been all tag teams so far on his current comeback..until last Monday when Shawn Michaels kicked his head off!

[calculoso]

Yes... and can you really tell me that the tag matches haven't been all predictable? Hogan gets the hot tag, gets beaten down, hulks up... etc.

Sure it feeds the fans what they want to see.. but add some variety to it!