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calumniate · 03-18-2013, 10:06 PM

So i'm kind of wondering if there are some stats here. I think the flames may lead the league in something? Dollars spent scratching players. 4.5 mill on sarich and babchuk.. add cervenka most nights? Ouch!

killer_carlson · 03-18-2013, 10:49 PM

That is actually a really interesting question.

Muta · 03-18-2013, 10:51 PM

Yeah... that Babchuk contract just looks worse and worse every passing day. Don't know what Feaster was thinking there.

kyuss275 · 03-18-2013, 10:53 PM

It's a lot of money in the presbox, but it only means something if they could have spent that money on good players. Not convinced they could have.

nik- · 03-18-2013, 10:53 PM

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Yeah... that Babchuk contract just looks worse and worse every passing day. Don't know what Feaster was thinking there.

He was thinking of the 50 points he was going to put up.

Muta · 03-18-2013, 10:54 PM

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He was thinking of the 50 points he was going to put up.

That's funny, you have to be on the ice to do that.

nik- · 03-18-2013, 10:55 PM

Don't bore Feaster with details. 50 points.

FAN · 03-18-2013, 11:00 PM

The Canucks and Leafs scratch their $4m+ a year Dman on a regular basis. The Flames don't come close.

Roof-Daddy · 03-18-2013, 11:05 PM

Kaberle has been a healthy scratch for most of this season in Montreal.

Roof-Daddy · 03-18-2013, 11:07 PM

Yah, Leafs have had Liles and Komisarek scratched on numerous occasions this season.

(18 for Liles, 23 for Komisarek)

That's nearly $8.5 million of cap hit.

Never mind the fact that they are paying Connolly $4.5 to play in the AHL.

gargamel · 03-19-2013, 06:28 AM

They're not exactly scratches, but I'm pretty sure the Islanders win (or lose) this conversation on goalies alone.

calumniate · 03-19-2013, 07:42 AM

Hmm thanks for the replies. I feel a bit better now

squiggs96 · 03-19-2013, 09:37 AM

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Hmm thanks for the replies. I feel a bit bitter now

Fixed

Poe969 · 03-19-2013, 09:48 AM

I think if the Flames wanted more success, they should have more of a cap hit in the press box on some nights.

neo45 · 03-19-2013, 10:10 AM

Still don't get why they gave Sarich two years if they weren't going to play him. He is still pretty good (I think, anyways), definitely NHL caliber, but the last two coaches have had zero interest in using him unless they had to.

Babchuk has played poorly when he has gotten his limited chances, so I think it is a different situation than Sarich. Babchuk had significantly more expectations when he signed, and he didn't live up to them at all. I thought he was a good player when used properly, but a bad player when his role was changed at all.

As for Cervenka, Feaster just flat out wasted the guys time with this season. He talked about getting an asset for nothing, but the way Cervenka has been played he has no value, probably won't want to come back to Calgary next year, and hasn't been able to help the team with his talent. Really confusing how he has been treated by Hartley, especially being passed over to play against Detroit in favor of McGrattan and Jackman. I love Grats, but playing the guy against Detroit is just pointless.

I know I will get ragged on for being the first guy to bring up Comeau, but it is really perplexing why he was given so much more of an opportunity than these 3 guys. Comeau was dreadful to start the year, and was given enough playing time to eventually find his game and start playing well. He has been a good player for us lately, but I don't understand why he was given such patience and the other 3 players were sent to the press box after any mistake. I don't think anybody can argue that Comeau was the worst player to start the season.

I think most would agree that there is no "meritocracy" when it comes to the coaching staff and management. It seems that different players are held to different standards by both.

Phanuthier · 03-19-2013, 10:30 AM

i have no idea why both those guys (Sarich, Babchuk) were even given multi-year deals and NTC's, forget the dollar amount. Feaster just gives out NTC like candy.

Flames Draft Watcher · 03-19-2013, 10:48 AM

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i have no idea why both those guys (Sarich, Babchuk) were even given multi-year deals and NTC's, forget the dollar amount. Feaster just gives out NTC like candy.

Are the no moves/trades really an issue though? I'm pretty sure either would waive to go to contender and actually play. Real competitors don't like the press box.

It's more of a security blanket for the player. If the team doesn't want you and is shopping you, you usually don't want to insist on staying. Especially not in the case of Sarich/Babchuk who can't get in the lineup.

Phanuthier · 03-19-2013, 10:56 AM

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Are the no moves/trades really an issue though? I'm pretty sure either would waive to go to contender and actually play. Real competitors don't like the press box.

It's more of a security blanket for the player. If the team doesn't want you and is shopping you, you usually don't want to insist on staying. Especially not in the case of Sarich/Babchuk who can't get in the lineup.

Maybe in the case of Sarich, probably not in the case of Babchuk.

But isn't the NTC/NMC the story of Feaster's tenure thus far? Needing to overpay just a little bit... was Babchuk in such high demand that he needed a NTC/NMC to sign? Did Feaster think Babchuk was in high demand or something? (maybe with the "50 points" prediction who knows)

calumniate · 03-19-2013, 11:29 AM

Yeah it's still pretty depressing. Would much rather have the cap hit on the ice, but those are the punches. Plus we haven't run into too much injury trouble on the back end, which is a bit of a first? (Knock on wood)

ricardodw · 03-19-2013, 11:30 AM

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The Canucks and Leafs scratch their $4m+ a year Dman on a regular basis. The Flames don't come close.

Ballard has only missed a total of 6 games this year and is playing 16 min/game in the games he dresses... meanwhile our 4.5 cap drainers have gotten third pairing minutes in the 11 games they have dressed.

The Flames were forced to sign Sarich as he was the only option in the system who could actually physically challenge someone running the goalie......

Other than Hannan who on a 1 yr 1M contract is putting in 19:30 for every game that Nashville has played.

Hannan was way ahead of Sarich in the depth chart last year . Does Feaster have any possible rationale for giving out this career ending golden contract to Sarich..... or any idea of the market value of NHL players? what sort of photos does Sarich have of Flames management???