Media influence on player value

[slybomb]

Watching Bob Mckenzie talk about the return J Bo would fetch and how well he is playing got me thinking about how much the media actually influences the value of players.

I know they having been beating down Iggy lately and talking up guys like J Bo and Stajan. Do you think GMs or other hockey management pay attention to comments made in the media about players and how much does it impact their thought process?


Personally, when they make a comment like they did tonight about J Bo...I think that GMs that haven't noticed how well he has been playing may tune in to see what they are talking about.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by slybomb

Watching Bob Mckenzie talk about the return J Bo would fetch and how well he is playing got me thinking about how much the media actually influences the value of players.

I know they having been beating down Iggy lately and talking up guys like J Bo and Stajan. Do you think GMs or other hockey management pay attention to comments made in the media about players and how much does it impact their thought process?


Personally, when they make a comment like they did tonight about J Bo...I think that GMs that haven't noticed how well he has been playing may tune in to see what they are talking about.

No.

They have a staff of paid professionals to consult with when they determine a players worth to them.

[trublmaker]

The media are the last people any GM or coach would ever listen to.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by transplant99

They have a staff of paid professionals to consult with when they determine a players worth to them.

One would think, but when you hear former GM's like Doug Maclean and Mike Milbury talking on TV, I tend to question the baseline intelligence needed to become a GM. Add in a few middling owners who likely get all their knowledge of the game from TV, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least a little bit of media influence when it came to decisions amongst some of the more poorly led teams.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Table 5

One would think, but when you hear former GM's like Doug Maclean and Mike Milbury talking on TV, I tend to question the baseline intelligence needed to become a GM. Add in a few middling owners who likely get all their knowledge of the game from TV, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least a little bit of media influence when it came to decisions amongst some of the more poorly led teams.

fair, but scary point.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by trublmaker

The media are the last people any GM or coach would ever listen to.

What about the fans? Forgot who said that, it was either Sutter or King, but one of them definitely said that a couple years ago.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

What about the fans? Forgot who said that, it was either Sutter or King, but one of them definitely said that a couple years ago.

Hot damm I miss Darryl Sutter's total inability to pander.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Table 5

One would think, but when you hear former GM's like Doug Maclean and Mike Milbury talking on TV, I tend to question the baseline intelligence needed to become a GM. Add in a few middling owners who likely get all their knowledge of the game from TV, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least a little bit of media influence when it came to decisions amongst some of the more poorly led teams.

Totally agree. Above average intelligence doesn't seem to be a requirement of being a GM as guys like Milbury and MaClean (although arguably two of the worst GM's of all time so not the greatest example of an average GM) got by on reputation and experience in hockey rather than being bright lights. Still though even they must have had faith in their pro scouts as well as an eye for talent so I'm not sure if media would have much effect on their decision making.

[kermitology]

I firmly believe that Jay Feaster is a response by the Calgary Flames to appease the media in town. No one has been as forthcoming about everything he's tried to do, and in most cases failed.

But he's the opposite of Darryl Sutter..

[The Yen Man]

What annoys me about Maclean is he talks like he was the best gm in the league. The guy almost ran the Blue Jackets into the ground.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Hot damm I miss Darryl Sutter's total inability to pander.

Pandering now seems to be part of the job description. I always liked when Darryl would hold a press conference about what he was going to do while lying through his teeth, he'd do just the opposite. Great times around here but the press didn't appreciate it.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by kermitology

I firmly believe that Jay Feaster is a response by the Calgary Flames to appease the media in town. No one has been as forthcoming about everything he's tried to do, and in most cases failed.

But he's the opposite of Darryl Sutter..

That's why he was brought in in the first place. He described his own role as a sounding board for ideas and as liaison to the media and public.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

What annoys me about Maclean is he talks like he was the best gm in the league. The guy almost ran the Blue Jackets into the ground.

Almost?

[Winsor_Pilates]

CP has influenced a number of media people, so maybe we can exercise our power and increase the value of some Flames!

CP influence==> Media influence==> ++Player Value!!

[Jake]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

What annoys me about Maclean is he talks like he was the best gm in the league. The guy almost ran the Blue Jackets into the ground.

In order to get a job in the media as a former GM, I'm pretty sure it is required that they have experience running at least one team into the ground.

Ex: Milbury, Button, MacLean

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by Jake

In order to get a job in the media as a former GM, I'm pretty sure it is required that they have experience running at least one team into the ground.

Ex: Milbury, Button, MacLean

You're rarely going to get a good GM who doesn't have a job right now.

[darthma]

I would think it does. Players and GMs do not exist in a bubble. I point to Brian Burke as a key example. As much as you love/hate the guy, he is amazing at talking up his assets. Look what he got for Kaberle or Beauchemin.

[dammage79]

I think it is a little of the opposite. Gm's and the presence of scouts at games give more to the value of players than the media. The media just picks up on this and reports it. Of course having "insider" access to the needs of some Gm's is a bonus.

I would say the media is more of a thermometer of the goings on in the NHL and really have no impact on the value of players outside of simply just getting the information out to the public.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

What annoys me about Maclean is he talks like he was the best gm in the league. The guy almost ran the Blue Jackets into the ground.

That is one awesome avitar, dude! And that is why Mclean is mot a GM these days.

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by slybomb

Watching Bob Mckenzie talk about the return J Bo would fetch and how well he is playing got me thinking about how much the media actually influences the value of players.

I know they having been beating down Iggy lately and talking up guys like J Bo and Stajan. Do you think GMs or other hockey management pay attention to comments made in the media about players and how much does it impact their thought process?


Personally, when they make a comment like they did tonight about J Bo...I think that GMs that haven't noticed how well he has been playing may tune in to see what they are talking about.

Do you pick stocks based on what newspapers, magazines or tv shows tell you? I figure it would be the same with GMs...they may garner ideas from many different sources, but the professionals do their due dilligence.

For instance I think Chris Stewart for Eberle would be a fantastic trade for the Oiler's. Same as picking up Hamrlik on waivers. Maybe someone sees this and thinks..."hmmmm" and does a little work on it.