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Old 02-28-2013, 10:22 AM   #1
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Tom Flanagan is okay with child pornography

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“It is a real issue of personal liberty, to what extent we put people in jail for doing something in which they do not harm another person.”
Seriously. WTF ???

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Old 02-28-2013, 10:26 AM   #2
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He obviously is a child molester.
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Is he related to Walt Flanagan?
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Who in the FATA is Tom Flanagan?
Writer for the Globe and Mail....many years back was a Harper adviser.

More than anything...he is a complete idiot as evidenced by the short sightedness of his views on child porn.

No one gets hurt?

Really Tom?

I rarely want to punch anyone in the face as i age, but this clown would have me back to my early 20's hockey mentality.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:40 AM   #5
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Wowsers. What a ridiculous thing to say.

It took the Wildrose Party about 6 seconds to dump him.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:41 AM   #6
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And how does he think those "just pictures" are made? a really good illustrator?

Shoot him.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:42 AM   #7
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His point is that the person looking at a picture isn't harming anyone directly. The harm has occurred by the person who took the picture.

It's stupid, but he isn't actually saying no one gets hurt.
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He certainly has an interesting and limited concept of doing no harm to another person. I guess it's okay to watch and even pay to watch somebody rape or kill somebody else as well since the watcher is not actually hurting anyone...
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Was the cheif strategist of the WildRose Campaign for the last election. He was also one of the key members of the "Calgary School" at the U of C political science department which gave birth to Stephen Harper and the Reform Party movement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Fla...l_scientist%29

(Apparently, someone already updated his Wikipedia page to call him a pedo)

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Old 02-28-2013, 10:45 AM   #10
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Holy crap.

That is the most short sighted, idiotic viewpoint on child porn I have ever heard anyone muster.

This coming from someone who is generally a supporter of his.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:54 AM   #12
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Who in the FATA is Tom Flanagan?
He used to be a respected U of C prof.

Wonder if he will step down or if he will get fired first.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:57 AM   #13
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He certainly has an interesting and limited concept of doing no harm to another person. I guess it's okay to watch and even pay to watch somebody rape or kill somebody else as well since the watcher is not actually hurting anyone...
But what if the video of someone raping someone is just "out there"? Paying someone to make the video (or making the video one's self) is pretty clear, but it's less clear (to me anyway) where the harm comes from in watching a video that already exists.

It doesn't harm the victim further, that harm has already been done.

What's the difference between someone viewing a rape video that's "in the wild", someone viewing a movie that depicts rape, or someone drawing a cartoon depicting rape?

Kind of playing devil's advocate here, but I also think I get what his point is, that I don't want to be in a society that has thought crimes.
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His point is that the person looking at a picture isn't harming anyone directly. The harm has occurred by the person who took the picture.

It's stupid, but he isn't actually saying no one gets hurt.

But it is.

If there is no market for such things, then no children get harmed. Its pretty simple and i am baffled he can't think that aspect through...or he himself is actually a NAMBLA member and as such believes the tripe they espouse.
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But what if the video of someone raping someone is just "out there"? Paying someone to make the video (or making the video one's self) is pretty clear, but it's less clear (to me anyway) where the harm comes from in watching a video that already exists.

It doesn't harm the victim further, that harm has already been done.

What's the difference between someone viewing a rape video that's "in the wild", someone viewing a movie that depicts rape, or someone drawing a cartoon depicting rape?

Kind of playing devil's advocate here, but I also think I get what his point is, that I don't want to be in a society that has thought crimes.

Everytime a video or picture is viewed the victim is reviolated.
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I grew up living on the same street as him - I believe had a least 1 daughter. I find it hard to believe that any sane father would be onside with kiddie pr0n.

It's the presence of nutjobs and other amateurs like this that prevent me from seriously considering Wildrose. Keep purging, and maybe we can talk.
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Yeah exactly. I understand what Photon is saying, but once you watch those videos that's a line being crossed.

I'm sure there are people out there who find children (or teens etc) attractive but never act on it. Those feelings aren't their fault. But unfortunately (for them) they can't ever act on it. Crossing that line includes watching child porn.
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But it is.

If there is no market for such things, then no children get harmed. Its pretty simple and i am baffled he can't think that aspect through...or he himself is actually a NAMBLA member and as such believes the tripe they espouse.
Yeah, I'm not arguing with you dude. But that's his point.
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How does a guy with a political career decide it's okay to be on the NAMBLA mailing list for a couple years?
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I guess we know why Bill C-30 got scrapped...Tom is with the pedos.
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