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Old 02-20-2013, 11:45 PM   #1
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Gord Miller tonight opined that he thought Bouwmeester currently has the most trade value of any Flame right now. I found that surprising but it got me thinking, who else would have more trade value?

Kipper?
Iginla?
Giordano?
Glencross (because if the nice contract)
Gaudreau?
Brodie?

Im not sure who it is. I would have said Kipper but now im not so sure





As a final comment please do not turn this into another pile on Iginla thread. We have about six of those on here at any one time, so leave it there.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:47 PM   #2
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Anyone that we have to think twice about getting rid of has the most trade value. So Bouwmeester, Hudler, Stajan, kipper.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:51 PM   #3
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Bouwmeester is still overpaid and is making too much to fit in other teams cap.

The Flames would trade Bouwmeester in a second for any player with 100 NHL games on his EL contract

Baertschi has the highest trade value by a lot. Brodie would be next.... and then maybe Glencross.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:56 PM   #4
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Bouwmeester is still overpaid and is making too much to fit in other teams cap.

The Flames would trade Bouwmeester in a second for any player with 100 NHL games on his EL contract

Baertschi has the highest trade value by a lot. Brodie would be next.... and then maybe Glencross.
Detroit and Philly would give a lot for Bouwmeester.

Additionally, the Flames can retain part of his cap hit.

A $5M Bouwmeester is very good value.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:56 PM   #5
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As of this exact moment?

1. Jarome
2. Bouw
3. Kipper
4A. Gio
4B. Glencross

Sven and Brodie would be top but there's no reason to think they would be involved in trade talks.
As for value, I'm convinced Jarome has enough name value to still garner a grade A prospect, 1st round pick and possibly another longer shot prospect/fringe player. Kipper and Bouw probably get you a low 1st & a solid prospect, Gio/Glenny would likely be 1st/2nd round picks with the quality of prospect/player added on depending on the pick.

I actually think Cammalleri will draw alot of interest at the deadline. If Calgary is willing to eat some contract, I think we could get a 2nd/3rd rounder for him which would be tremendous.

I've been looking at Hockeydb quite a bit over the last few weeks and I've noticed that the prospects received in trades very rarely "win" a trade for that team. Historically, teams seem to be better off acquiring draft picks and making their own selections.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:03 AM   #6
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Set aside whether they would be included or whether they would waive a no trade clause, who is it?

I think Sven's value is way down for not cracking the top line or second line out of camp.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:05 AM   #7
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As for value, I'm convinced Jarome has enough name value to still garner a grade A prospect, 1st round pick and possibly another longer shot prospect/fringe player. Kipper and Bouw probably get you a low 1st & a solid prospect, Gio/Glenny would likely be 1st/2nd round picks with the quality of prospect/player added on depending on the pick.
Be prepared to be disappointed if those are your expectations.

Edit: Iginla isn't doing his trade values any favours, a 35 year old soon to be free agent with a large cap it, issues surrounding how he is in a locker room, 1 goal on the year... I think that the name value of Iginla may be quickly deteriorating until you see a Kaberle like return of a decent prospect, a late first round pick and a second round pick. As for Kiprusoff - the same issues surround him, he has played poorly this year, he has talent but there are some massive question marks that surround him at the current time. Bouwmeester is a player who has yet to play in a playoff game and has a history of choking under pressure (Florida in their playoff push) a contending team isn't going to sell the farm for Jay.

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IF Iggy gets you a first it is a low first rounder because only good teams would be willing to take on a rental
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:13 AM   #9
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I think Jarome could land you a Brodie-caliber prospect, a 2nd and a useful grinder.

Bouwmeester, however, could fetch you a 1st, due to demand for a d-man with his attributes.

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Old 02-21-2013, 12:29 AM   #10
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^^^ if this is the case then the trade to make is obvious.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:33 AM   #11
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IF Iggy gets you a first it is a low first rounder because only good teams would be willing to take on a rental
Well ya...he's not going to get traded anywhere else but to a contender.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:49 AM   #12
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Set aside whether they would be included or whether they would waive a no trade clause, who is it?

I think Sven's value is way down for not cracking the top line or second line out of camp.
I think the league has seen enough of him to know what they would be getting regardless of how our coaching staff plays him. I would imagine that if Feaster sent out 29 phone calls, he would receive 29 offers. I would be more concerned about the freak injuries he is sustaining. This neck/concussion trouble seems to be the most worrisome. He never seems to get caught with his head down yet he has been on the shelf twice in two years for the same injury. If there is any reason to be down on him, it would be because of that IMO.

Brodie would be worth a ton also. Much more than Jarome as their is basically no downside to trading for him and good young d-men are at a premium in the league, especially guys that can move the puck like he can.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:50 AM   #13
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Not to say at trade deadline Iginla's return value weren't hiked up a bit, you can never really say. Maybe he starts scoring again prior to help his case. But yeah, if Philly or Detroit were to by chance offer their 1st + spare parts for Jbo, that could land you a pick in the 16-20 range, as both teams I think will end up in 6-8th in their respective conferences, which is pretty damn decent. Possibly 2 picks in the top 20 in a strong draft.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:52 AM   #14
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Realistically, Iginla is worth a 20-30 OV pick, a moderate NHL prospect somewhere between the value of Reinhart and Jankowski, and perhaps a 2nd round pick.

Bouwmeester might be able to get a 20-30th pick + a decent D prospect like Olli Maata or an equivalent, and a 2nd/3rd round pick or a 5th/6th D-man or solid 3rd/4th liner.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:53 AM   #15
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With the ability to retain salary, Bouwmeester probably has the highest asbolute trade value for a rebuild. That is if Feaster can convince the owners to pay 3M to Bouwmeester for playing with another team.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:55 AM   #16
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Now is not the time to make significant moves.

One move, maybe, once Sven comes back, but the team should wait on any moves until they are on some kind of roll.

Selling now isn't going to do much for anyone, but you can't wait too long and risk injury or the market shrinking.
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:04 AM   #17
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No way you guys trade Gaudreau. Who knows if his success at BC will transfer over to the NHL. Unless all of a sudden the Flames become a threat.
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:13 AM   #18
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It's a hypothetical question of who has the most trade value, not if we should trade them.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:23 AM   #19
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I would put Brodie way a head of Sven right now. Sven has only played 9-10 games in the NHL and has yet to prove himself and he has had two long term injuries already. Just cause he was a 1st round pick shouldn't mean anything. That would be like saying Greg Nemizs is still worth a 1st round pick.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:27 AM   #20
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Our 1st round pick probably has a crap load of value.
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