02-04-2013, 09:02 AM
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Lost Remains of King Richard III Found
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-21063882
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Lead archaeologist Richard Buckley, from the University of Leicester, told a press conference to applause: "Beyond reasonable doubt it's Richard."
Richard, killed in battle in 1485, will be reinterred in Leicester Cathedral.
His skeleton had suffered 10 injuries, including eight to the skull, at around the time of death. Two of the skull wounds were potentially fatal. ... Other wounds included slashes or stabs to the face and the side of the head. There was also evidence of "humiliation" injuries, including a pelvic wound likely to have been caused by an upward thrust of a weapon, through the buttock.
Richard III was portrayed as deformed by some Tudor historians and indeed the skeleton's spine is badly curved, a condition known as scoliosis.
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Richard the III was the only 'missing' monarch of England, dating back to 839 with the exception of Edward V, long believed murdered by Richard III, his bones buried somewhere in the tower of London.
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02-04-2013, 09:39 AM
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There was also evidence of "humiliation" injuries, including a pelvic wound likely to have been caused by an upward thrust of a weapon, through the buttock
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Ah, the Welsh!
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02-04-2013, 01:03 PM
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I've been hearing/reading about this story all morning. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this, but why is this important? The guy's been dead for over 500 years.
Congratulations?
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02-04-2013, 01:05 PM
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It sounds like somebody didn't like him.
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02-04-2013, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
I've been hearing/reading about this story all morning. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this, but why is this important? The guy's been dead for over 500 years.
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What's the time limit for when we should stop caring about history?
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02-04-2013, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
I've been hearing/reading about this story all morning. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this, but why is this important? The guy's been dead for over 500 years.
Congratulations?
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It's interesting on a number of levels.
The story of Richard III is a great example of how the winners of the wars are the ones who write the history books. While Richard III lived in decadence like most late-medievel monarchs, he was also one of the first liberal monarchs in Europe. He made a push for literacy among the commoners, he offered them greater legal protections and limits of Crown authority. Even to this day though, the character assassination persists. I think it sort of writes the final chapter by giving him a proper burial.
Civilizations rise and fall, and one day our whole species will be extinct. In that respect, is anything important? It will be nice if the story we leave behind is as complete and truthful as possible.
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02-04-2013, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
It's interesting on a number of levels.
The story of Richard III is a great example of how the winners of the wars are the ones who write the history books. While Richard III lived in decadence like most late-medievel monarchs, he was also one of the first liberal monarchs in Europe. He made a push for literacy among the commoners, he offered them greater legal protections and limits of Crown authority. Even to this day though, the character assassination persists. I think it sort of writes the final chapter by giving him a proper burial.
Civilizations rise and fall, and one day our whole species will be extinct. In that respect, is anything important? It will be nice if the story we leave behind is as complete and truthful as possible.
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Most of what people "know" about Richard III is from Shakespeare, who also happened to write during the age of the Tudors. The Tudors beat Richard III on the battlefield, so you're absolutely right that this is a prime example of history being written by the victors.
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02-04-2013, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
I've been hearing/reading about this story all morning. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this, but why is this important? The guy's been dead for over 500 years.
Congratulations?
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This is history. History is interesting. This is interesting.
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02-04-2013, 03:50 PM
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"Foul deeds will rise,
Though all the earth o’erwhelm them, to men’s eyes."
Free Richard Three!
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02-04-2013, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kybosh
Most of what people "know" about Richard III is from Shakespeare, who also happened to write during the age of the Tudors. The Tudors beat Richard III on the battlefield, so you're absolutely right that this is a prime example of history being written by someone not wanting to be hung by the victors.
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02-04-2013, 07:04 PM
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02-04-2013, 07:11 PM
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Freeeedommmmmmm!!
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02-04-2013, 10:00 PM
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If it was possible, and they were able to bring a person back to life who has been dead for 500 years. And have that person walk around the streets observing all that changed in the world in the past 500 years. What modern thing that we see and use on a daily basis would likely fascinate them the most? Airplanes? Cars? Televisions? Skyscrapers?
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02-04-2013, 10:04 PM
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Someone's been watching Kate and Leopold.
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02-05-2013, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Rudee
If it was possible, and they were able to bring a person back to life who has been dead for 500 years. And have that person walk around the streets observing all that changed in the world in the past 500 years. What modern thing that we see and use on a daily basis would likely fascinate them the most? Airplanes? Cars? Televisions? Skyscrapers?
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My guess would be either porn or the fact that very few people reek of piss and #### these days.
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02-05-2013, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
My guess would be either porn or the fact that very few people reek of piss and #### these days.
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Assuming they don't go to Edmonton
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02-05-2013, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Rudee
If it was possible, and they were able to bring a person back to life who has been dead for 500 years. And have that person walk around the streets observing all that changed in the world in the past 500 years. What modern thing that we see and use on a daily basis would likely fascinate them the most? Airplanes? Cars? Televisions? Skyscrapers?
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High Heels.
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02-05-2013, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Rudee
If it was possible, and they were able to bring a person back to life who has been dead for 500 years. And have that person walk around the streets observing all that changed in the world in the past 500 years. What modern thing that we see and use on a daily basis would likely fascinate them the most? Airplanes? Cars? Televisions? Skyscrapers?
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supermarkets
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02-05-2013, 09:36 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Indoor Plumbing.
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02-05-2013, 09:38 AM
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Norm!
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Indoor Plumbing.
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Kings had indoor plumbing, it was called peasants with baskets and buckets
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