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Old 12-12-2012, 06:38 PM   #1
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I'm a municipal elected official. I'm Facebook friends with a politician in another community whom I know is a fraud. I won't say who or the community.

The guy votes against his colleagues on numerous issues just so he can then blast the decision publically. A municipal budget, for example. Tax increases are unpopular so he usually opposes any budget with any increase, then on his website and on Facebook he attacks the decision. He picks his spots and loves to go ballistic on controversial issues. He does these same things on twitter and on his website. He picks issues for the express purpose of grandstanding.

Once a council decision is made, even if you disagreed you can say why you voted against, but you then support the decision made by the majority. You can still feel the decision was wrong but you don't attempt the undermine a majority decision or try to attack your colleagues. This guy does all of these. He provides incomplete information to strenghten his case. These tactics are very destructive.

When he votes against something, he's immediately online pretending to be the hero and playing to the masses. These idiots lap it up. They think this guy is their hero and the only one who has their interests at heart. Several are asking him to run for mayor. I hope he does so his ass is booted at the next election.

I know this guy is a fraud. He has no respect from his colleagues. They can't stand him. He's a loner because no one will even talk with the jackass. He's ineffective but his constituents don't know who he really is or that he's ineffective. Any politician who loses the confidence of his colleagues like this is impotent.

We're Facebook "friends" because I want to see what the moron is up to. If I out him, he'll unfriend me, which I wouldn't mind except then I can't follow his stupid behaviour unless I go undercover.

Should I expose this jackass for the fraud I know he is?
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:41 PM   #2
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Yes, you should out John Mar immediately.....
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:47 PM   #3
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My thought in this is that you should then name yourself so that we can look at your voting record and your quotes to the press so that we can see if your record is perfect.

But go ahead and attack Justin, I like seeing a great politician pissing match.

I'm not seeing where this guy is a fraud I see him as a typical politician.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:50 PM   #4
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:57 PM   #5
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My assumption is you are a Calgarian. My guess? Kerry Diotte of Edmonton.
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I'm a municipal elected official. I'm Facebook friends with a politician in another community whom I know is a fraud. I won't say who or the community.

The guy votes against his colleagues on numerous issues just so he can then blast the decision publically. A municipal budget, for example. Tax increases are unpopular so he usually opposes any budget with any increase, then on his website and on Facebook he attacks the decision. He picks his spots and loves to go ballistic on controversial issues. He does these same things on twitter and on his website. He picks issues for the express purpose of grandstanding.

Once a council decision is made, even if you disagreed you can say why you voted against, but you then support the decision made by the majority. You can still feel the decision was wrong but you don't attempt the undermine a majority decision or try to attack your colleagues. This guy does all of these. He provides incomplete information to strenghten his case. These tactics are very destructive.

When he votes against something, he's immediately online pretending to be the hero and playing to the masses. These idiots lap it up. They think this guy is their hero and the only one who has their interests at heart. Several are asking him to run for mayor. I hope he does so his ass is booted at the next election.

I know this guy is a fraud. He has no respect from his colleagues. They can't stand him. He's a loner because no one will even talk with the jackass. He's ineffective but his constituents don't know who he really is or that he's ineffective. Any politician who loses the confidence of his colleagues like this is impotent.

We're Facebook "friends" because I want to see what the moron is up to. If I out him, he'll unfriend me, which I wouldn't mind except then I can't follow his stupid behaviour unless I go undercover.

Should I expose this jackass for the fraud I know he is?
How come the other aldermen in that community don't "out" him? And what exactly are you outing hime for? Being contrarian? Sounds like Ric McIver to me. Except lots of people liked Ric. Just like the guy you're talking about. You say the morons eat it up? Who are the morons? His constituents? Isn't that who you'd be outing this guy to?

Really, it sounds like you just hate the guy, and you want to rant about it.

And that facebook thing at the end of your rant sounds like something a teenager would say.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:20 PM   #7
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Out him, I like political mudslinging........
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My assumption is you are a Calgarian. My guess? Kerry Diotte of Edmonton.
I believe MoneyGuy is in Edmonton.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:25 PM   #9
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Unfortunetly I'd guess his supporters will find a way to twist you telling the truth as you being bitter, angry, jealous etc...If you do expose him I'd wait until as close to his next election as possible for maximum damage infliction.
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Oh man this is gonna be a good thread!

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Old 12-12-2012, 07:39 PM   #11
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Out him for what exactly?

This guy appears to be doing all this stuff as publicly as he possibly can.

Sounds like outing Elton John for being gay.
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OK. Guess #2: MoneyGuy is Kerry Diotte and he's talking about that slap head Rick McIvor.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:56 PM   #13
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MG isn't in Edmonton, but oh how I wish he were "outing" Kerry Diotte.
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My advice: anonymous leak!
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:08 PM   #15
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I also don't understand the problem. He sounds like a jerk (after hearing only one side of the story) but nothing stated indicates he's a fraud.
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I think you should get CSIS involved.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:24 PM   #17
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I think this thread would be a lot funnier if someone emailed it to the Edmonton Sun.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:37 PM   #18
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Is it not a little redundant to be talking about a fraud politician? Especially if it's coming from a fraudulent poster who also happens to be a politician?

Crazy thread.
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I think you should out-fraud the politician.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:55 PM   #20
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I also don't understand the problem. He sounds like a jerk (after hearing only one side of the story) but nothing stated indicates he's a fraud.
Yeah, I'd be careful using the word fraud in public in this situation. This guy sounds like an asshat politician, but that's not the same as fraud, which is a crime. If he's not committing fraud and you accuse him of fraud, it could be you with the problem.
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