Career changes: Greener pastures or just more fertilizer?
I think it was Scoopy Noopers who made a remark awhile ago about the disappointment/GG of a new job not being the positive experience it was thought to be (paraphrasing here, sorry).
I’m curious, who here has left a career just for the change? Did it help your emotional state? Was there a pay scale change for good or bad, and did it impact you truly? If you changed fields entirely, was walking away from the career you built a mistake? If you stayed in the industry, was the next place really any more engaging or rewarding?
I’m no longer the employee I pride myself on being. I’m not a lazy employee, I don’t avoid work, I like a challenge and I earn my money. Except over the last few months I’ve checked out, hard. I tried and tried and thought I was doing a very good job but ultimately I’m on the same square as I was years ago and I can’t stand it. There’s a myriad of reasons I’ve disengaged, maybe career growth enticement that never will lead anywhere and core duties that I’m just so damn tired of. Sometimes, I literally am on the verge of tears because I can’t get motivated to keep putting effort into the things that I think are valuable while simultaneously unable to bear the the thought of doing the same thing I’ve been doing for 8 years. I’ve noticed I’ve actively started self sabotaging and I’m going to get fired or seriously ruin my reputation. I’m a damn good worker with a decent mind, but I just can’t ####ing do this job anymore. I hate how disinterested and withdrawn I am.
Except it pays well, not great but enough. I have a new daughter and a wife on mat leave, but we’re doing okay enough, and if I were to change industries it would be at a serious drop in either income or family time, for a few years probably.
I have a couple of job opportunities that pay less, don’t offer the flexibility, and are rather similar to what I do now. And I think I’m just done with the ‘what I do’ on the whole. I honestly am not appealed by either offer, other than as a way to get out of where I am now.
I don’t feel like an entitled millennial who doesn’t want to work, but maybe that’s all it is? Is this a midlife crisis a decade too early? Suck it up man, I have a kid at home?
Please, someone tell me this isn’t what every day for working life should feel like.
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Is there something in your job that lets you add some new challenges for yourself? In mine, things are constantly changing; new technologies that I can play with emerge and I can incorporate into the next product. I don’t know if that’s an option for you, or if you need to colour within the lines for each task you do. I could see how that would grow tiresome. I’d just see if there is some way to spice up the current job so it doesn’t seem so rote and mind numbing.
I think it was Scoopy Noopers who made a remark awhile ago about the disappointment/GG of a new job not being the positive experience it was thought to be (paraphrasing here, sorry).
I’m curious, who here has left a career just for the change? Did it help your emotional state? Was there a pay scale change for good or bad, and did it impact you truly? If you changed fields entirely, was walking away from the career you built a mistake? If you stayed in the industry, was the next place really any more engaging or rewarding?
I’m no longer the employee I pride myself on being. I’m not a lazy employee, I don’t avoid work, I like a challenge and I earn my money. Except over the last few months I’ve checked out, hard. I tried and tried and thought I was doing a very good job but ultimately I’m on the same square as I was years ago and I can’t stand it. There’s a myriad of reasons I’ve disengaged, maybe career growth enticement that never will lead anywhere and core duties that I’m just so damn tired of. Sometimes, I literally am on the verge of tears because I can’t get motivated to keep putting effort into the things that I think are valuable while simultaneously unable to bear the the thought of doing the same thing I’ve been doing for 8 years. I’ve noticed I’ve actively started self sabotaging and I’m going to get fired or seriously ruin my reputation. I’m a damn good worker with a decent mind, but I just can’t ####ing do this job anymore. I hate how disinterested and withdrawn I am.
Except it pays well, not great but enough. I have a new daughter and a wife on mat leave, but we’re doing okay enough, and if I were to change industries it would be at a serious drop in either income or family time, for a few years probably.
I have a couple of job opportunities that pay less, don’t offer the flexibility, and are rather similar to what I do now. And I think I’m just done with the ‘what I do’ on the whole. I honestly am not appealed by either offer, other than as a way to get out of where I am now.
I don’t feel like an entitled millennial who doesn’t want to work, but maybe that’s all it is? Is this a midlife crisis a decade too early? Suck it up man, I have a kid at home?
Please, someone tell me this isn’t what every day for working life should feel like.
As someone who is in the process of trying to find a new career path while also having a new baby and a wife with another eight months of maternity leave to go, if you have the ability to ride it out until your wife goes back to work, do it. Now isn’t necessarily the time to leave a sure thing for something that isn’t better and doesn’t pay more.
I don’t need to tell you how stressful this situation can be, money wise.
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I have changed industries every 5-7 years or so. Often enough I think of a new role as a new “career cycle”. This allows me to embrace the fact it will end at some point, and to work hard at developing a useful and hopefully rare skill, expand the network and build positively on my reputation. Those three things follow you, and you do never know when and where they will shine for you in the future.
I wouldn’t say this is satisfying, but more of something I’ve come to accept.
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I just completed a pretty significant job/industry move. It all started out rooted in the same feelings described by the OP: listlessness, self-sabotage, boredom. I took my time, played the lawn game, “watered the grass,” and worked with my network to find a better-paying and more senior position. Timing is important. Giving yourself the time is even more important.
The most interesting thing about the whole experience was exactly what SeeGeeWhy described.
Are you depressed? At a minimum you are sleep deprived, stressed out and not thinking perfectly rationally due to just having a child.
I’ve never jumped industries but in switching jobs you always want some combination of more opportunity, more pay, more interesting or more flexible. The way you describe the two jobs in your industry are lower pay, less flexible same work. Despite them being a change in the people you likely end up in the same rut you are now.
If you can wait until your home life stabilizes a bit and then evaluate what you want to do with the next 5 years I would think you would be able to evaluate your options better
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I think it was Scoopy Noopers who made a remark awhile ago about the disappointment/GG of a new job not being the positive experience it was thought to be (paraphrasing here, sorry).
I’m curious, who here has left a career just for the change? Did it help your emotional state? Was there a pay scale change for good or bad, and did it impact you truly? If you changed fields entirely, was walking away from the career you built a mistake? If you stayed in the industry, was the next place really any more engaging or rewarding?
I’m no longer the employee I pride myself on being. I’m not a lazy employee, I don’t avoid work, I like a challenge and I earn my money. Except over the last few months I’ve checked out, hard. I tried and tried and thought I was doing a very good job but ultimately I’m on the same square as I was years ago and I can’t stand it. There’s a myriad of reasons I’ve disengaged, maybe career growth enticement that never will lead anywhere and core duties that I’m just so damn tired of. Sometimes, I literally am on the verge of tears because I can’t get motivated to keep putting effort into the things that I think are valuable while simultaneously unable to bear the the thought of doing the same thing I’ve been doing for 8 years. I’ve noticed I’ve actively started self sabotaging and I’m going to get fired or seriously ruin my reputation. I’m a damn good worker with a decent mind, but I just can’t ####ing do this job anymore. I hate how disinterested and withdrawn I am.
Except it pays well, not great but enough. I have a new daughter and a wife on mat leave, but we’re doing okay enough, and if I were to change industries it would be at a serious drop in either income or family time, for a few years probably.
I have a couple of job opportunities that pay less, don’t offer the flexibility, and are rather similar to what I do now. And I think I’m just done with the ‘what I do’ on the whole. I honestly am not appealed by either offer, other than as a way to get out of where I am now.
I don’t feel like an entitled millennial who doesn’t want to work, but maybe that’s all it is? Is this a midlife crisis a decade too early? Suck it up man, I have a kid at home?
Please, someone tell me this isn’t what every day for working life should feel like.
This thread resonates with me. I have many who are in the same boat at you. I'll reply, but not as me. I can get quite a few of the answers you're looking for based on several individuals who have within the last 12-18 months changed industry/career approach and hated it. Several are also in the middle of changing their roles and one literally got a role out of their ####ty situation a few days ago, so I don't want to drop any details in case somehow there's enough detail to identify or cause a large contingent of managers to suddenly begin to get in the way of individuals who are looking (literally happened to one of them so far).
A few answers to your question:
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I’m curious, who here has left a career just for the change?
Yes. I know someone like this. Did it for getting out of a certain industry and opening the door in getting opportunities in another industry. (It's honestly kinda crazy how many industries basically only want to hire people who have worked in that industry and screen out candidates from other industries unless they have a referral)
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Did it help your emotional state?
Yes/No. Pros/Cons. Somethings better, some things felt worse.
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Was there a pay scale change for good or bad, and did it impact you truly?
Pay was slightly higher, but if you broke down the salary vs hours spent, it was a lower "average compensation by hour".
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If you changed fields entirely, was walking away from the career you built a mistake?
This has been a constant discussion point. Often times, there is musing about "Why did I make those career moves in this industry?"
"Why did I change industries where I am not as familiar and not as comfortable?"
"Did I make a mistake?"
"Am I no good?"
To which I respond:
"Because that industry is a dying industry that has on average shed over half of its work force from several years ago."
"Because this one is less toxic than the previous one and has more of a future than the previous one."
"It's not a mistake to try out a different/rare opportunity and see what's around the other corner. After riding out a role for 12+ months, you can easily go back and forth between the two industries as you see fit. Setting yourself up for flexibility and options is not a mistake."
"You are unfamiliar. That's not the same as no good. You rode out quite a few rounds of layoffs and you were able to sorta choose your own exit from the industry. That's at least considered above average."
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If you stayed in the industry, was the next place really any more engaging or rewarding?
Loves the culture and the lack of red tape from the previous industry.
Hates the lack of recognition in the new industry, the lack of tools and employee equipping (The equipping/tools are so bad and the company is so cheap, I say it's metaphorically being equipped with a rickshaw to move a piano across the city) and hates the lack of boundaries with the WFH mandates.
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I don’t feel like an entitled millennial who doesn’t want to work, but maybe that’s all it is? Is this a midlife crisis a decade too early? Suck it up man, I have a kid at home?
Kids don't help, but it does contribute to it feeling like everything is spiraling out of control.
Work standard falls, but you are so exhausted, household standards aren't improving either. Everything feels like it's in free fall.
I don't know about midlife crisis, but quarter-life crisis is a concept that's been created already.
I think... maybe you also did not quite have a good idea on what the definition of change is? I mean, one way I'll put it is that the individual I am speaking about was once pretty good at metaphorically building great things with a good set of power tools and shop equipment in a large ware house with a sizeable team. Now, said individual is struggling to build things with hand tools while also fielding administrative work that the person had never had to deal with before from their own garage and Macguyering all sorts of solutions for issues that pop up due to the serious limitations of the set up. It's being handed an impossible task and then thrown under the bus for not accomplishing it.
Some people want work that is stimulating. That's fine, especially when we were younger. But as we get older and have more responsibilities like kids, more and more of us are finding that monotonous tasks that we can essentially complete at a high level with little effort is more rewarding. We realize that we don't need the higher wages. For instance, instead of making $100K but working 50 hours weeks (2500 hours ish a year; $40 an hour), I and a few friends are starting to realize that we are OK taking those $80K salaries if it means we are literally working 9-5 (approx 2000 hours a year; $40 an hour). The $20K a year wage loss manifests in less drinking/activities to relax as much, less counseling, less all sorts of things to counteracts the stress, so it essentially breaks even.
I don't think you're a millennial that doesn't want to work. I think you're a millennial that wants better work life balance. I think you're a millennial that might be realizing that you don't want to be a slave to your job or a slave to the things you are owning. If like the individual I am referencing, you might want off the "keeping up with the Joneses" and be happy/fulfilled with what you want and have. You might want off the "I must aim to be a VP/CEO or bust" and are content being a mid level manager for the rest of your career. That's all OK.
Other stuff and some of the direction that some of these individuals are going in:
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The individuals I am referencing are looking to move jobs. After a bit of debate, the individual will stay in the new industry but one that isn't with an idiotic management group that is basically using hand tools rather than the power tools it needs for its size. One that literally does not do things like spend months analyzing the right database tools for the job (that they literally needed several years ago) only to reject everything and continue status quo of excel spreadsheets for an international company of over a thousand employees.
I mean, if you are literally able to determine if the attrition rates are above average in your own company, and they announce this in town halls while essentially offering band aid solutions vs long term solutions to address the issue (when they actually have the option of a long term solution but just don't feel like doing things proper) that's an indictment on the company, not you.
For why you might feel like crap... is your management group solid? Or are they literally a bunch of idiots? As millennials, we have to start realizing that around our mid 20s and definitely by our mid 30s, we are literally becoming experts in the field. We are better versed at modern tools than boomers. We are more experienced than those younger than us. We are literally able to see the solution that is required and being stonewalled by scared morons who are worried more about their job because money than company success and pride in their work. We might literally be drowning because of how wasteful the whole internal policies are or sick and tired of continuing down an inefficient path because it's been done that way forever. Burnout is damn easy in environments like this.
I have literally told the individual I referenced that after analyzing what I know so far of that company, that they are inferior and downright incompetent in their own industry. The management group is too damn short sighted and lazy to steer the ship in the right direction making inexplicable decisions to reject proposals to implement the equipment everyone so desperately needs and spending time to implement feel good pet projects that are total failures/throwing more money at these projects to save face. They have good ideas but completely zero talent to support those ideas (in fact, the talent that could implement such things have been chased away due to politics and frustration). Even if new owners/board come in and replace the management group with someone actually competent, it's only more rain before the rainbow.
You know the saying, "Don't argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience?"
What about, "Are you in an environment where the management group are a bunch of idiots and they're bringing you down to their level and beating you with experience?"
Some management groups are willing to blow crazy money to metaphorically acquire, install and implement a 3D printer even though they'll have crazy down time, because it'll be worth it in the end and they predict the demand for the products they produce will be in high demand. Those are management groups and companies worth sticking around for.
Other management groups are morons. Even though their own employees are saying they don't need 3D printers (although it'd be nice) but minor upgrades like power tools would be nice to meet the demand that the company already in not able to meet, they say no and demand everyone continue carving with hand tools... Jump ship. These type of management groups are also quite disrespectful for those under them, so eff them and who cares if things falls apart if you leave. You aren't unreplaceable and if you are and things crater because you leave, that's a perfect example of a company that will go no where.
Based on what you said so far, you are doing OK OP. You've identified a frustration and you will want to act on it. If you are in a bad place with an option out, look for it. Many others will continue to relentlessly push through and likely just delay the inevitable, but accumulate more damage as they push on. Why do you do the things you do? You used to do it purely for you, but somewhere along the lines, you maybe wanted to do it for someone else but you haven't completely realized that. Pride in your own work changed to wanting someone being proud of you. You perhaps are stuck in the realization and situation of doing things for yourself vs your family. Maybe you're running out of energy to continue growing your career as well as enjoying the fruits of your labour. I know that my spouse and I felt that way.
Perhaps you are like a huge part of the millennial exodus from the work force. Some may define it as "lazy and entitled", but that's not necessarily true. They're calling people names when they don't understand what the situation is. I think more and more millennials are redefining what work is, what needs are, and what performance is. They're getting frustrated that hard work is defined as someone working 60 hours weeks with low output vs someone who can blow away that same out put in half the time and is labeled as "lazy" for using their time on things other than taking on more projects and work.
I have literally had about half a dozen of these types of conversations at length with quite a few friends. The pandemic feels like it has compressed years to a decade worth of career grief in a few short years/months. The vast majority of those I spoke with are looking to down grade their roles/time commitment to work. A third have already made the moves necessary to start a new chapter on better defined terms and in a manner they feel they will succeed at getting what they want.
Others are lucky to still be surviving in O&G and have retooled their approach. They have downgraded their spending substantially and are now aiming for a freedom 40 to freedom 45. They're accumulating wealth now and will downgrade their roles/go part time in the next 3-5 years when they ultimately plan for kids and essentially retire or go part time when the kids are school age. That's a pretty sweet plan too and I wish I'd have thought that way earlier.
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Sorry for the side rant. Your post just resonated with me. I did a career change around 5-6 years ago to something I never thought I'd do.
I myself have been going through something similar again recently, but it's not really a career change or change in industry. I'm currently doing a major project at my company and soon planning to transitioning to part time in my company so that I can put more focus into consulting, perhaps academia and also spend more time with my kids.
I started in accounting/audit/bookkeeping to pad the resume but never wanting to have a career in accounting. On the side I've always been doing IT/IS as a hobby, but slowly integrated that into my work. I transitioned to logistics and supply chain and did well, but got bored in less than a year. I was quite good but the role always felt more sales in nature. I transitioned back into accounting to get my designation and improve my tools and ended up specializing in certain multiple fields of accounting that very few accountants even with a designation are familiar with. I applied to be a controller in a logistics company and literally when I was offered the role, something in my head told me it wasn't the change I was looking for and I declined the job. I joined a small company and focused heavily on improving processes for all the different levels as I continued to learn and accumulate expertise. I am currently a VP in my current company specializing in those accounting fields as well as operations/strategy. I'm in the middle of plans for finishing off a technological overhaul of the company (to blend the old school tools and modern tools to provide a service that IMO is quite superior to other companies in the same industry). I put in 6 month of time planning things and the plans start deploying next week and will continue for about 4-6 months.
I have a young family as well. I subsist on something like 40-45 hours a week average for sleep which is woefully not enough. Work is around 40-60 hours a week. I'm mostly brain dead when I try and spend time with my kids. They get so much screen time. So many extra toys during busy seasons. So many treats to replace being unavailable emotionally. So much physio required after overdoing it on the weekend with the kids because it's all the time I have at the moment and I am lucid. I feel guilty about it. My spouse and I in the same boat career vs household wise and we both feel guilty about it. But what choice do we have until we get to the stage where we can cruise in our careers to have the resources necessary to focus on our kids and offer them the resources we want to offer them? There is so much usage of chemical to stimulate and relax due to the stress (ie: caffeine, alcohol, CBD/THC, Vyvanse for adult ADD that is only used in high stress situations where the brain just wanders horrifically at times where I don't have the time to spare etc.). It's so unhealthy. I'm burnt out.
My goal is to do this for another 14-18 months of this and then hopefully at that time I will be in a situation to get 50-55 hours of sleep a week average and 35-45 hours of work a week. Pandemic going endemic and not significantly worse than flu seasons of yore will be huge for the mental side of things.
But... I feel I am lucky that I have the necessary knowledge, tools and skills to quite accurately identify what I am aiming for work/life balance wise as well as have an environment I can control which also allows me to accurately identify what the 1, 3, 5 and 10 year plan looks like. In 3 years I'll be cruising. If I only accomplish 75% what I aimed to do at 3 years, my plan is still going to accomplish what my end goal is. In fact, I have extra things in that 3 year plan so that I have either the flexibility at year 3, or the option to pick and choose the things I deem are most important in that goal and accomplish those at a higher degree of mastery.
OP, sorry for dropping a wall of text in your thread. To answer your question, what you are feeling is NOT what every day working should feel like. What you are feeling should only be for temporary stages in your life to build towards something greater that you want and will enjoy. You seem like you have an idea what you want. You've taken the plunge before into new territory, I'm certain you'll do it again and reach the destination you want.
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Seems like a lot of people I know are changing careers. Many people around my age are just all of a sudden getting fancy sounding management/board of director jobs.
I think it's just an age thing, as many of these people don't seem especially experienced in those roles. No one wants/respects a 35 or younger manager. When you get to a certain age, more opportunities just seem to become available.
There also seems to be some general restructuring going on across many different industries, which, in itself, seems to be creating opportunities.
So yes, I'd say it's a great time to look for new opportunities.
1. Understand what you don't like about your job as it is? Is it just a bad boss, or bad team, are you in the wrong role, or is it something about the industry.
- In my case it was the culture of the industry, and I felt I just didn't fit. I felt like I had a fundamentally different take on life as well as how to get things done compared to almost everybody I met. For my situation, changing roles or companies wouldn't have solved my issue, so I had to consider changing industries. I already knew how much I liked working in tech, so I knew I could fit better in another industry.
2. I know a few 50-somethings that stuck in a job they didn't like because it paid them a lot of money. None of them were / are happy, and in fact most feel pretty bitter.
- The truth is that money doesn't buy happiness. On the flipside, there is no perfect job that will make you happy. It is intuitive that doing something you actively dislike for decade after decade is going to negatively impact you.
3. It's hard to switch industries. As others mentioned, as you progress in your career it's hard to switch jobs without a big paycut. Basically they say you can change 1 of the three: Location, Industry or role. I know some people that changed their role dramatically in their current industry as a means to move out of it in a few years. Others just took a similar job in a totally new industry.
- In my case I switched industry but kept city and similar role.
Overall, I did my big change over 5 years ago. Not once have I regretted it, and in fact I've probably told my wife hundreds of times how thankful I am I made the change. Gave up a lot of salary, but I enjoy almost every day and work with people I connect with, accomplishing things that are important to me.
I think I'm lucky in that I had worked in tech and felt pretty confident that I would have a lot more job satisfaction with the move.
Your results may vary. I'm sure there are people who move careers and hate it.
I always say the grass isn’t always greener, you’re just further away so the brown spots blend in. It’s also different grass and different brown spots.
This guy left a high paying corporate job to do his own thing and has some good posts like this one on finding your purpose.
Perhaps before you make a decision it would be worthwhile to take advantage of your employee assistance program from your group benefits? They may help you seek out more clarity or to use the line from the video above, what your purpose is.
Leaving an existing job with a baby and wife at home for a lower paying job with less flexibility seems …. Not smart
The reality is most of these people who quit their high paying jobs to find them self / find something they enjoy are able too because they already have the financial stability to allow it
If you don’t like your current job go looking but don’t settle for something that pays less and has less flexibility. It’s a job searchers market right now.
You will be a lot more stressed if you don’t have time with the family or are struggling to pay bills then what you are facing at work (most likely)
However some of your past posts do give us a very stressed tone . So ultimately if you literally hate your job leave . Just don’t settle on another job as you will be in the same spot in 6 months
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Changing industries and jobs will not make you happier. Industries and jobs don't make people happy, the underlying intrinsic value they receive from doing things makes them happy. You need to figure out what you do that brings joy to your life and focus your attentions on that. Once you are finding more satisfaction or joy in those parts of your life, your work life will follow. You don't sound like you are all that attached to your career, so that is more of a means to an end. Determine what that "end" is and focus on that. As GG said, the weight of having a child at this time in your life is probably adding to your mental state and dissatisfaction so now may not be the best time to be making life altering decisions. Make big changes when you are most stable, not when you're down.
Seems like a lot of people I know are changing careers. Many people around my age are just all of a sudden getting fancy sounding management/board of director jobs.
I think it's just an age thing, as many of these people don't seem especially experienced in those roles. No one wants/respects a 35 or younger manager. When you get to a certain age, more opportunities just seem to become available.
There also seems to be some general restructuring going on across many different industries, which, in itself, seems to be creating opportunities.
So yes, I'd say it's a great time to look for new opportunities.
Interesting perspective. That’s definitely not been the case in my experience.
Good feedback and perspectives already.
My observations:
- You do have a lot of positives going for you. Decent work, wages, etc... that help you OUTSIDE of work. Focus on your non-work life and it'll make work more bearable. I say this from experience too.
- If you have one or several really crappy coworkers or managers... that's a different reason to look around.
- a *LOT* of males start expressing or amplifying work place unhappiness when their woman is pregnant and/or has a very young child. It's about the only thing they feel in control of and so think that'll change their situation. Talk to your friends and just make observations and you'll be astounded at how many have gone this route.
- Are you able to take on different roles or challenges where you're at? How can you facilitate some change to get yourself more engaged?
- You asked if you need to actually change industries... No... but maybe change within the industry or within your org'n *is* actually an option?
- Lifestyle and stress management... look at yourself, your situation, at home, social, work, etc... is your work-attitude a RESULT of everything else going on? cos quite often it is. What can you actively do about it? ideas:... sleep/rest, pursuing interests, exercise, mindfullness, social time, daddy-time, more/less time with wife, supplements/meds (ie St. Johns), tinkering about, more housework, less social media to name a few.
I *haven't* left jobs I should have... and paid the price too.
I've "survived" jobs where I hung on until I found a better one... same industry but different part of it so many skills were transferable.
Can't really say I've left a job that I should have stayed at.
Overall... be realistic... but also make the best choice you can with what you know and think to the future too. Maybe this will pass.
Seems like a lot of people I know are changing careers. Many people around my age are just all of a sudden getting fancy sounding management/board of director jobs.
I think it's just an age thing, as many of these people don't seem especially experienced in those roles. No one wants/respects a 35 or younger manager. When you get to a certain age, more opportunities just seem to become available.
There also seems to be some general restructuring going on across many different industries, which, in itself, seems to be creating opportunities.
So yes, I'd say it's a great time to look for new opportunities.
Interesting take. I would agree with you. If you kept your ducks in a row, and progressed your career, some pretty interesting opportunities start popping up around 35/36.
Somewhat related - I saw a segment today on the news about the shift from the great resignation to the great regret that some are feeling after leaving their job recently for a different one.
So what's the best advice for switching industries in terms of roles to apply for? I've been trying to switch industries for the past 12-18 months and have had no luck getting callbacks, let alone interviews. I've tried applying for jobs higher ranking/pay than mine, equal ranking/pay and less ranking/less pay all with no luck.
Interesting perspective. That’s definitely not been the case in my experience.
A little industry dependent. There's some tech/sales/customer service jobs where they basically show you the door at 40. In an office, with a varied age group, from what I've seen things are different.
Career changes: Greener pastures or just more fertilizer?
