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Old 11-21-2012, 11:52 AM   #1
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Darwin is rolling in his grave... http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczyn...en-learn-about











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Old 11-21-2012, 12:45 PM   #2
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Evolution says "man is the highest level of animal"?
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auto-epistemic reasoning?

If p were true, then I would know that p.
I don't know that p.
Therefore, p is false.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:06 PM   #5
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That reads like it is taught in a Humanities course rather than a science course.

I am pretty anti-creationist, but I can see where that lesson would be a great way to teach critical thinking. It is a good way to have the students read through different materials and identify the biases and viewpoints of the authors.

I should add that if it is being taught in science class then it is disgusting, and the very reason that the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster was created. It would therefore be my belief that all three theories be taught. R'amen

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That reads like it is taught in a Humanities course rather than a science course.

I am pretty anti-creationist, but I can see where that lesson would be a great way to teach critical thinking. It is a good way to have the students read through different materials and identify the biases and viewpoints of the authors.
"Gods words are always accurate"

It comes off to me, like creationists are addressing evolution in these textbooks in an almost satirical manner. Like they're poking fun at it.
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Is this in a science textbook or a religion textbook?
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Is this in a science textbook or a religion textbook?
It's both...based on the link in the OP, it's a book that can be used by faith based schools.
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It looks to me more like the cheesy books we used to get in Sunday school than a school textbook.
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The textbook starts with the words "Remember thy creator" and has lines like "Scientists believe" when talking about basic geological facts.
http://www.bjupress.com/product/278499
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That's something I never understood about the Flood story, even as a kid in Catholic school back in the day... if Noah had to take on two of every animal, what the hell happened to any marine life? They were having an f'n field day, that's what. Why would God only spare aquatic creatures? Is marine life not God's creation too, or is he playing favourites? If they were on the boat, would they not die from lack of water?

Maybe getting two sperm whales aboard a ship would have been too much of a task. God got lazy.

As well, I want the technical details / construction specifications of a crudely-made boat that survived the greatest flood known to Man. Are they available somewhere? No? That Noah must've been one hell of an engineer.
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It's both...based on the link in the OP, it's a book that can be used by faith based schools.
Cutting corners to save on education budgets.

Combining religion and science into one textbook ensures future generations that wasting paper on textbooks is both a disservice to mother nature and a sin.
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That's something I never understood about the Flood story, even as a kid in Catholic school back in the day... if Noah had to take on two of every animal, what the hell happened to any marine life? They were having an f'n field day, that's what. Why would God only spare aquatic creatures? Is marine life not God's creation too, or is he playing favourites? If they were on the boat, would they not die from lack of water?

Maybe getting two sperm whales aboard a ship would have been too much of a task. God got lazy.

As well, I want the technical details / construction specifications of a crudely-made boat that survived the greatest flood known to Man. Are they available somewhere? No? That Noah must've been one hell of an engineer.
Clearly only the land based animals annoyed God enough to go full on Genocide on their asses. I mean, obviously all those rabbits doing the nasty deed must be punished by nearly destroying their entire race, and what about those freaky camels? One hump or two, make up your damn minds.

The dragons and dinosaurs obviously missed their wake up call - too bad for them - losers.

As for the plausability of this particularly moronic fable:
http://talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html

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From the BuzzFeed link, this is published by BJU Press, as a science text. Here's their idea of "critical thinking:"

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Of course, a textbook provides the factual base for studying a subject. But its worldview, its methods of teaching, its depth of content, and its literary quality should promote critical and creative think#ing that is foundationally biblical.
Their entire definition of "critical thinking" is just argument from authority (the Bible).

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I can find about 100 "errors" to reject on just those three pages. So many logical fallacies, many of them overlapping, it's hard to know where to start. This is not "teaching the controversy." This is ad hominem, ad ignorantiam, false analogy, and pretty much every other logical fallacy. So maddening that this garbage is sneaking into public schools.
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That's something I never understood about the Flood story, even as a kid in Catholic school back in the day... if Noah had to take on two of every animal, what the hell happened to any marine life? They were having an f'n field day, that's what. Why would God only spare aquatic creatures? Is marine life not God's creation too, or is he playing favourites? If they were on the boat, would they not die from lack of water?

Maybe getting two sperm whales aboard a ship would have been too much of a task. God got lazy.

As well, I want the technical details / construction specifications of a crudely-made boat that survived the greatest flood known to Man. Are they available somewhere? No? That Noah must've been one hell of an engineer.
dont forget that salt water fish would die in a fresh water rain and vice versa. If the earth flooded id assume all marine life would die.
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That's something I never understood about the Flood story, even as a kid in Catholic school back in the day... if Noah had to take on two of every animal, what the hell happened to any marine life? They were having an f'n field day, that's what. Why would God only spare aquatic creatures? Is marine life not God's creation too, or is he playing favourites? If they were on the boat, would they not die from lack of water?

Maybe getting two sperm whales aboard a ship would have been too much of a task. God got lazy.

As well, I want the technical details / construction specifications of a crudely-made boat that survived the greatest flood known to Man. Are they available somewhere? No? That Noah must've been one hell of an engineer.
I am not Mr. Religion but didn't god flood the earth to punish man, to wipe him out and start again. Not to punish his other creations.

That being said why didn't he just hurl the planet into the sun and start again?

Wasn't Noah supposedly 400 years old when he finished the ark...now that's playing favorites...or cruel and unusual punishment.
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Back when I used to be a more practising Muslim boy, I never could never for the life of me believe in the Noah's ark story. I think you have to be full on ###### to actually think some dude could have built a giant boat, got every single animal to obediently sit inside it for a few days and god just flooded the earth because he was angry. I never read the Christian or Jewish version of the events, but I assume they're similar?
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Evolution says "man is the highest level of animal"?
This is always the biggest misconception that non-believers of evolution have. They don't understand that there is no end point. A human is just as "evolved" as an alligator or eggplant.

Although, I do hear some pretty smart "sciency" people say similar things once in while. Some think that it's a given that the human species will continue to develop tp higher intelligence, when in reality, we could be the next crocidile (virtually unchanged for ages). It's all about what gives a reproductive and survival edge, and there is no reason to think that considering how successful we are as a species, that this will necessarily continue. We'll probably keep developing technology to a certain point, but there could be a point where it is enough for selection purposes.
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