06-05-2012, 08:23 AM
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Bath Salts use spreading across Canada.
http://news.sympatico.ca/oped/coffee...OIaRg.facebook
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A powerful new drug linked to violence has been reported in Edmonton just a week after a scary account about bath salts was published in Nova Scotia.
Edmonton police are worried after finding a drug known as bath salts on the city's streets.
Judging by experiences in the United States, the cops are right to be concerned.
Bath salts are made by amateur druggies out of chemicals such as mephedrone, MDPV, and methylone. It's a good bet that each batch made by each clandestine drug lab is different from every other batch, making the use of the end product a true crap shoot for the addict.
And there will be addicts here in Canada.
"Users say as soon as they stop using, they want to snort again," an Edmonton detective told a reporter.
Just a single use of bath salts could be enough to turn a user into an addict. In addition to the terrible social spin-offs of addiction – sick users and crime to support the habit – bath salts users are prone to delusions and can become violent.
It's alleged that the man killed after eating another man's face in Miami last week had consumed bath salts prior to the attack. He reportedly growled at police who shouted at him to stop and was hit by a number of bullets before dying.
A Nova Scotiaman who spoke with a reporter last week said he went through an awful time after taking bath salts.
"(I) felt like I wanted to kill me or kill somebody else," he said after an eight-day binge.
He added that paranoia left him "hiding under the blankets." What's even scarier is that the Nova Scotia man said he had plenty of experience with other street drugs before the bath salts episode.
Surprisingly, the ingredients needed to make bath salts are readily available, and once the drug has been produced, it's not illegal in Canada. That can be expected to change quickly but making it illegal to possess or produce won't solve the problem. There are many illegal drugs in this country that are still easy to find so imagining a law will solve the problem is just wishful thinking.
The government can go one step further and restrict access to the ingredients. That may mean a commercial drug currently on store shelves becomes available only through a prescription. It seems a small price to pay for making the world a little safer.
The next step will cost some money. Nothing short of a massive public education campaign will take a bite out of the potential for an epidemic of bath salts use.
The health effects for users include kidney failure, heart attack, as well as aggression and death. The medical expenses and the cost of rehabilitating addicts are hundreds of times greater than prevention, and that's before you add in the pain and suffering of victims of crime or violence left in an addict's wake.
Today it's bath salts, but you can be sure the next designer drug is already being cooked up. We need a strategy to deal with homemade drugs before they appear on our streets.
TV and radio ads, billboards, newspaper ads and social media should be employed quickly. The message needs to get through to everyone: if you don't know who made a drug or what they put in it, why take a chance?
No one would eat a meal prepared by an anonymous cook in a sketchy kitchen, and the drugs you put into your body deserve at least that much consideration.
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WTF is wrong with people? Whatever happened to just smoking weed and not turning into a zombie?
My favorite quote in this whole article is "The government can go one step further and restrict access to the ingredients. That may mean a commercial drug currently on store shelves becomes available only through a prescription. It seems a small price to pay for making the world a little safer."
-Because that helped a lot with Oxycontin, Dilaudid, Perks, and other script drugs? SMH
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06-05-2012, 08:24 AM
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people are such morons. thats the only contribution i have to this.
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06-05-2012, 08:28 AM
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NOT a cool kid
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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This sounds like the worst possible drug experience ever....why do people want to do this again?
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06-05-2012, 08:33 AM
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it cracks me up that we need to educate folks on the dangers of taking drugs that are made by somebody in thier home.......
I am looking forward to the episode of the CBC Edmonton reality show where the entire hose takes bath salts and they then have a moment of clarity where they realize that loafers, sweats and a fanny pack is not a good look for this milleneum........
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06-05-2012, 08:35 AM
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There was a TV program a while back that focused on "bath salts" in the US. Apparently they're labelled as such along with "not for human consumption" tag which makes it harder for law enforcement to act against. It also bypasses the FDA with that tag apparently.
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06-05-2012, 08:39 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by J-bo09
This sounds like the worst possible drug experience ever....why do people want to do this again?
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Bigger Better Faster of course. I doubt the people making/selling this **** are saying "man, this high will make you want to eat a man's face & rip out your own organs! You may just want to kill yourself you'll be so high"
But they're already selling to drug attics who are still chasing that first high, so it's probably like "this stuff will make you forget meth" and boom, libertarian zombie mutants roaming the streets.
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06-05-2012, 08:41 AM
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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So are these actually bath salts? Or is that just a street name? If you dumped a few ounces of this stuff into your wife's bath is she going to turn into a loony?
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06-05-2012, 08:41 AM
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by chemgear
There was a TV program a while back that focused on "bath salts" in the US. Apparently they're labelled as such along with "not for human consumption" tag which makes it harder for law enforcement to act against. It also bypasses the FDA with that tag apparently.
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I'm confused by that, like can you just walk into head shops and pick up "bath salts, not for human consumption" and be on your way? Or has the guy selling out of his car on the street corner tagging everything with "not for human consumption" and some how getting away with it?
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06-05-2012, 08:51 AM
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Yup, you can just walk into any head shop and buy the bath salts and be on your way. Just like Salvia. They are able to skirt the law based on the technicallities. Those four words "Not for human consumption" essentially allow them to circumvent regulations. I suspect they will find a way to make this stuff illegal, but I actually hope they don't. If people want to destory their lives in pursuit of a drug any of us could make in our bathtubs, then let them.
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06-05-2012, 09:03 AM
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I'd heard that there can be permanent psychological effects to using this drug. Not sure if that argument has any traction though. Scary if true.
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06-05-2012, 09:07 AM
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Just remember to aim for the heads kids.
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06-05-2012, 09:08 AM
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Norm!
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Simple
Outside of dope dealers, take anyone that's caught selling these hard drugs when you catch them behind the nearest building and ventilate their head.
These Xstacy dealers know that the drug has become incredibly harmful yet they sell it. Bang
Crack deals live on and encourage human misery, bang
People who sell drugs made in the bathroom that are incredibly harmful bang
People who sell heroin one of the most addictive and misery producing drugs out there, ka blaw (Bazooka to the head sound)
I'm all for helping the addict, but seriously the dealers need to start dying.
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06-05-2012, 09:08 AM
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People have sniffed glue, done whippets, sniffed felt markers, huffed helium, anything it seems to get a high. Something tells me warning them this could damage them psychologically might actually help increase usage.
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06-05-2012, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Tron_fdc
So are these actually bath salts? Or is that just a street name? If you dumped a few ounces of this stuff into your wife's bath is she going to turn into a loony?
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Street name. Put down the razor blade and epsom salt.
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06-05-2012, 09:17 AM
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Legalize drugs.
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06-05-2012, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Simple
Outside of dope dealers, take anyone that's caught selling these hard drugs when you catch them behind the nearest building and ventilate their head.
These Xstacy dealers know that the drug has become incredibly harmful yet they sell it. Bang
Crack deals live on and encourage human misery, bang
People who sell drugs made in the bathroom that are incredibly harmful bang
People who sell heroin one of the most addictive and misery producing drugs out there, ka blaw (Bazooka to the head sound)
I'm all for helping the addict, but seriously the dealers need to start dying.
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06-05-2012, 09:24 AM
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Have you guys heard about this synthetic heroin that people are making in Russia when they run out of the real stuff? They call it Crocodile or something because your skin starts to crystallize into scales and then falls off leaving exposed bone.
EDIT - here's a link to it:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-2300787.html
Last edited by Coys1882; 06-05-2012 at 09:26 AM.
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06-05-2012, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Notorious Honey Badger
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couldn't find a larger version of that?
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06-05-2012, 09:30 AM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Yasa
Legalize drugs.
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So you want to legalize crack which is incredibly destructive both physically and mentally and Meth, and these other incredibly nasty drugs?
Yes you can make the argument that liquor and cigarettes are destructive but these drugs are far more addictive and destructive on a whole.
I can't think of a worse idea. I'm fine with legalizing grass as long as its regulated and taxed to the highest levels and taken out of the hands of the gangs.
But legalizing something like crack that addicts you and destroys you in the first use is kinda stupid.
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06-05-2012, 09:32 AM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Coys1882
Have you guys heard about this synthetic heroin that people are making in Russia when they run out of the real stuff? They call it Crocodile or something because your skin starts to crystallize into scales and then falls off leaving exposed bone.
EDIT - here's a link to it:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-2300787.html
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Do not google krokodil addicts pictures out of curiousity, I thought it was exagerated.
Its not.
God.
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