Legalize Ecstasy

[FlamesAddiction]

That is what BCs health chief is advocating:

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/e...fficial-says-1

He cites studies that say consumption of ecstasy by adults in its pure form and in controlled doses is relatively safe and non-addictive.

He also compares it to the prohibition of alcohol in the 1920s when there was a rash of deaths due to bootlegged alcohol being cut with dangerous chemicals by gangs. Would legalizing it save lives and money?

I tried it once and think I had a bunk hit because I barely felt anything. I have been afraid to do it since then though because of fact that it seems like there is a chance you can die from the street versions.

[TurnedTheCorner]

I excuse him because he lives in BC and probably forgot, but marijuana isn't even legalized yet. Crawl before you try to walk, you greedy burnout.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Indeed, how can a drug thats completely man made with various chemicals be legal before a drug that grows naturally? Pot first, everything else later.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Indeed, how can a drug thats completely man made with various chemicals be legal before a drug that grows naturally? Pot first, everything else later.

The whole "natural vs. man-made" issue is a non-factor IMO.

There are many "natural" substances that will kill you fast and many man-made ones that are harmless. I know that I would rather drink Pepsi (man-made) before eating some hemlock (natural and can be fatal if consumed).

[calumniate]

I understand your logic senator, however pot grown illegally is a lot less harmful to people than ecstacy that's produced in someones basement. Not saying it's right, but in terms of mitigating danger the chief may have a point.

[Senator Clay Davis]

You make a very valid point calumniate about mitigating the danger of a drug that is based off a safe compound but is cut with many other dangerous chemicals. I can't think of too many ways to grow pot that could endanger its users (unless its spiked with poison), but yeah with E you could easily use PMMA or any other chemicals.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

YI can't think of too many ways to grow pot that could endanger its users

How about the number of house fires in this city coming from grow operations?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Fires in grow ops endanger the growers, but not sure how it affects the users other than possible higher prices due to lower supply.

[FlamesKickAss]

Or the mold that occurs in the house

[Senator Clay Davis]

In theory the house is destroyed, and the supply as well, by a fire. Once discovered, the police will promptly seize the property.

[WCan_Kid]

How about the number of house fires in this city coming from grow operations?

Or the mold that occurs in the house

Along with the link to organized crime, these are issues related to it being illegal and not the product itself. Same argument can be made for Ecstacy and a bunch of other drugs, as well.

If they're proven to be no more harmful than the multitude of legal drugs available, why not decriminalize and control? Bottle of tequila or whiskey, along with stuff like oxycontin, will mess most people up far more than a dose of E or a doobie. Difference is that typically you know the tequila was made to a specific standard.

[Travis Munroe]

Wouldnt it be MDMA if it was extacy? I always thought extacy was mdma (pure form) with a whole ton of other junk and chemicals.

[CaptainCrunch]

Even in a pure form ex is still a fairly dangerous drung, it raises body temperature and causes severe dehydration, while its not as dangerous as the street forumla, it can still cause problems.

And lets be honest what kid is going to follow directions, red bull and alcohol is fairly dangerous yet people still do it.

So if you sell a kid a bunch of legalized ex and tell him he can only take one pill every 4 hours and to drink lots of water, is he or she going to do it?

Probably not.

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Even in a pure form extacy is still a fairly dangerous drung, it raises body temperature and causes severe dehydration, while its not as dangerous as the street forumla, it can still cause problems.

And lets be honest what kid is going to follow directions, red bull and alcohol is fairly dangerous yet people still do it.

So if you sell a kid a bunch of legalized extacy and tell him he can only take one pill every 4 hours and to drink lots of water, is he or she going to do it?

Probably not.

Very solid point...

Back to the marijuana debate, its near impossible to overdose. I heard you would have to smoke your body weight? (not sure how true that is)

But with Extacy, it wouldnt take much to go over board. If you are already drinking and high on the drug, your judgment as to "how high" you are will drastically altered leaving you in a dangerous situation to overdose.

[Muta]

Drugs lose their allure once they are legalized.

I say legalize all drugs and outlaw exercise.

[WCan_Kid]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Even in a pure form ex is still a fairly dangerous drung, it raises body temperature and causes severe dehydration, while its not as dangerous as the street forumla, it can still cause problems.

And lets be honest what kid is going to follow directions, red bull and alcohol is fairly dangerous yet people still do it.

So if you sell a kid a bunch of legalized ex and tell him he can only take one pill every 4 hours and to drink lots of water, is he or she going to do it?

Probably not.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by WCan_Kid

That chart is wrong. You've misspelt 'coolness' with 'death'.

[Senator Clay Davis]

You pretty much cannot OD on marijuana. Odds are you'll fall asleep way before you can even get to that point, or will be so brain dead (not literally) from smoking so much you won't be able to pick up the pipe. Basically, ODing on pot is about as impossible to do as getting drunk on O'Douls

[CaptainCrunch]

I'm not fracking talking about tabacco smoke, and it has nothing to do with this debate to be honest.

ITs the whole idea of we should legalize this drug because cigarettes are legal its a stupid argument you don't keep legalizing potentially dangerous drungs because one is already legal.

I clould put up a chart saying that we can legalize handguns because they kill less people then tabacco.

There are also far less users of Ecstacy then there are smokes.

[undercoverbrother]

Ollie likes it

Oliver Stone has opened up about his drug use in a candid new magazine interview, revealing he no longer takes anti-depressants but has become a big fan of Ecstasy and the hallucinogenic juice from rubber tree plants.

http://blog.sfgate.com/dailydish/201...ne-and-prozac/