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Old 09-22-2011, 02:40 PM   #1
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A fundamental pillar of physics – that nothing can go faster than the speed of light – appears to be smashed by an oddball subatomic particle that has apparently made a giant end run around Albert Einstein’s theories.
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:43 PM   #2
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Well cmyden.... I guess it's back to.... ˛1.

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Old 09-22-2011, 02:47 PM   #4
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Think the correct term here is Ludicrous speed. One must wear a helmet when going this fast.
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When will I be able to fill up my truck with neutrinos?
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:54 PM   #6
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Oh good ole media reporting science, we've been discussing this in the ongoing science thread.

Its a significant anomaly that they felt best to release their findings in hope of getting help figuring out WTF is going on.

Sure would be awesome though if they turned physics on its head.
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:56 PM   #7
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Finally! Light is so slllloooooowwwww.......

Take that light!
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no way! condemn these scientists, thou shall not go against accepted THEORIES.
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Old 09-22-2011, 03:13 PM   #10
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Oops, forgot to carry the one. My bad.
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Old 09-22-2011, 03:19 PM   #11
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Psh, we all knew Chuck Norris was faster then light anyway. This is news?
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Old 09-22-2011, 03:27 PM   #12
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Man, if you get hit by that particle it'd leave a 2 foot hole coming out the back of you.
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There are billions of neutrinos passing through the earth every second. They are passing through your body right now.
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From the mouth of some guy who knows way more about this subject than I do:
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The reporting here is incorrect. Einstein’s theory *DOES NOT HOLD* that nothing can travel faster than light. That is a very common misconception. Einstein’s theory starts with one axiom (a self evident truth) and one postulate (a statement deemed to be true without further argument). The axiom from Einstein’s theory can be stated: the laws of physics should not depend on the frame of reference of the observer. This is a self evident truth. The postulate can be stated: light will be measured to travel at the same speed by all observers regardless of reference frame. This postulate was based on experimental evidence available in 1905 and still available today. When the axiom and postulate are applied to observers traveling at constant speed relative to one another, you get the special theory of relativity, published as part of Einsteins 1905 paper. One of the conclusions is that “the speed of light is constant and absolute in free space”. It falls out of the mathematics. This conclusion is part of the special theory of relativity. It has to date not been dis-proven. If it is, then the postulate must be incorrect. It would mean that light *can* be measured to travel at a different speed depending on the frame of reference of the observer. I don’t get from the article that this is what has occurred. When the axiom and postulate are applied to gravitational and accelerating frames of reference, you the general theory of relativity, published in 1916. The general relativity mathematics bring forth strange things like black holes, worm holes, time warps, time travel etc. in the so called “fabric of space and time.” The stuff science fiction authors and buff’s are so enamored with. Including me. Most of it has not been practically realized. Only the more mundane stuff like gravity lenses, time dilation, length contraction have been observed. If any experiment can be performed that is in contradiction to the conclusions, then we would merely say, as would Einstein, that the postulate of the constancy of the speed of light, regardless of reference frame, must be incorrect. That’s not such a big deal, really. It would change a lot of physics. It would be very exciting. But it would just mean that the one postulate, one that none of us have ever been able to intuit anyway, is incorrect.

This is not the first time that experiments have been performed that have particles traveling faster than light *in a medium other than free space*. In this case neutrinos travel through, air, water and apparently rock faster than light does. That does not violate the fundamental postulate that the speed of light is constant regardless of the frame of reference of the observer.

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There are billions of neutrinos passing through the earth every second. They are passing through your body right now.
I wonder if I can call in sick tommorrow

Sorry boss, I can't make it in today, I got hit with an extra heavy barrage of Neutrinos.
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There are billions of neutrinos passing through the earth every second. They are passing through your body right now.
Actually, about 200 billion pass through just your eyes alone every second.
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Actually, about 200 billion pass through just your eyes alone every second.
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I thought I tasted Neutrinos
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These scientist guys aren't real bright. How do they think the USS Enterprise gets from Earth to the neutral zone in a few days? I mean duh!!
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