More strange happenings in the USA

[longsuffering]

A once great democracy has lost it's way

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[longsuffering]

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[Wranglers110]

I don't think you could ever joke about killing the president.

Same old, same old.

[transplant99]

What's the big deal?

Other than being in bad taste at best, it's ILLEGAL to threaten the life of a US President even in a joking manner.

Christ a lot of you leftists have a problem following THE LAW.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Oh yeah I feel the mind police closing in on me know, they took what was basically a threat against the president (even though it was in a joking manner) to be serious and acted as a result.

[longsuffering]

Geez a lot of you rightwingers would have made good nazis.

Illegal war based on lies- "we're speading freedom"
Human rights violations - "they're enemy combatants"
Collateral damage (killing innocent Iraqis) - "oh well"
Flushing the Koran - "no big deal"
Five years for passing a joint - "damn hippies deserve it!"

In Canada, a conservative party that accepts sexism, homphobia and rascism among its MPs - "they didn't really mean it"

Where WOULD you say enough is enough? Internment camps? Oh wait, GWB has those. Maybe gas chambers?

If American continues on this course soon it will be a crime to disagree with the Administration in public. Jon Stewart, Jay Leno, David Letterman and the whole cast of SNL could find themselves in jail if they continue with their wicked ways.


A final question - the capition said "most likely to ..." - where is the threat? Did the student even write the caption himself?

WAKE UP!

[JiriHrdina]

Bah. Its a joke made in poor taste. The school is perfectly within their rights to put a stop to it as it reflect on their institution. Its got nothing to do with the downfall of democracy

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

You have to be kidding me, the kid made a threat on the president's life. Even if it was a joke I don't see how that relates to gas chambers, hell the kid wasn't arrested. They merely put a mark over the quote in question. Hell I think it was a couple years back where the kid had an anti-semetic comment in the yearbook in German, and they did the exact same thing. Where is the difference? Where is the freedom lost.

I strongly suggest that you read up on what a social contract is for it appears as though you are completely ignoring the obligations, no responsibilities which have been placed on all citizens.

And calling people Nazi's is just well I can't think of a polite way to put it, but ignorant to the fullest degree.


Illegal war based on lies- "we're speading freedom"
- I don't agree with the war 100%. I still think that no one knew whether Saddam did have chemical weapons, it turns out he didn't, but if you really want to take that chance, and risk harm to your country and your allies then you can go ahead, especially when it comes to a nation which has used the weapons in the past, and has been known to kill it's own citizens on the street. Just remember people starved while Saddam shat on gold seats. The money and the food was there via the oil for food program, it was just taken advantage of by other nations such as France, Russia, and others. Saddam benifited.

Human rights violations - "they're enemy combatants"
- What? What human rights violations?

Collateral damage (killing innocent Iraqis) - "oh well"
- No one has said oh well, I have heard that people say that there might be a greater good in the war. I still believe that a greater good will in time show itself to be the case. Not as soon as with WWII, but it will reveal itself. Lastly I don't hear very many people complaining about the firebombing of cities in Germany in WWII. Were the German's life worth less to you than the lives of the Iraqis?

Flushing the Koran - "no big deal"
- Relatively speaking it isn't a big deal. I know you might roast me for this, but when it comes to the flushing of a book, it really doesn't bother me than much, it could be a bible, or whatever and I wouldn't care that much. The book it a matierial, the content is what matters, and the words trancend the pages.

Five years for passing a joint - "damn hippies deserve it!"
- People said it was strict, but no one said it was a bunch of hippies. Come on you are intentional giving drugs to someone in rehab or to a minor. If you do that you should have your ass handed to you.

[CaptainCrunch]

Its always been the law that no matter how minor the threat, the Secret Service has to investigate it.

The kid was a moron, this has nothing to do with him protesting or making a social statement, he's an idiot.

I'm shocked that he's in school at all.

This has nothing to do with freedoms, or freedom of expression.

Its not societies loss that this ######ed joke is being strickened from the year book.

[Mike F]

Originally posted by CaptainCrunch@May 28 2005, 12:38 PM
The kid was a moron, this has nothing to do with him protesting or making a social statement, he's an idiot.

I'm shocked that he's in school at all.

Bit of an overstatement, no? Plus, typically these "Most likely to..." captions are done by the yearbook committee or someone other than the student.

This has nothing to do with freedoms, or freedom of expression.

Not allowing the caption "Most likely to assassinate Bush" is limiting a student's freedom of expression, the issue is whether it's a reasonable limit.

Personally I think the Secret Sarvice's investigating it as a threat falls under the heading of "Having nothing else to do that day...", however the school's choice to black it out as inappropriate for an official school publication is fine with me.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally posted by Mike F+May 28 2005, 09:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike F @ May 28 2005, 09:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-CaptainCrunch@May 28 2005, 12:38 PM
The kid was a moron, this has nothing to do with him protesting or making a social statement, he's an idiot.

I'm shocked that he's in school at all.

Bit of an overstatement, no? Plus, typically these "Most likely to..." captions are done by the yearbook committee or someone other than the student.

This has nothing to do with freedoms, or freedom of expression.

Not allowing the caption "Most likely to assassinate Bush" is limiting a student's freedom of expression, the issue is whether it's a reasonable limit.

Personally I think the Secret Sarvice's investigating it as a threat falls under the heading of "Having nothing else to do that day...", however the school's choice to black it out as inappropriate for an official school publication is fine with me. [/b][/quote]
There's a big difference between "Most likely to drink a ton of beer" or most likely to be unemployed for life and most likely to kill the president.

Especially after the events of Columbine and other school incidences the school has to take something like that seriously.

The secret service dosen't have a choice, if there is even a mention of killing the president they have to investigate. Its the law not a option.

And yes, it was a moronic and irresponsible thing to put into a year book, and not even real funny.

And something like that to me dosen't even warrant an argument of freedom of expression unless your going to tell me that it wasn't a joke but a political statement.