Tiger Woods' former caddie Steve Williams refers to Tiger with a racial insult

[Flabbibulin]

Thought this would be better served in the off-topic forum, but mods can move if they want.

Anyways, this guy really is bitter over being let go by Tiger. He makes the comment during a toast in front of hundreds of golf professionals no less.

At a season-ending banquet to honor and roast the world’s most elite caddies on Friday night, Steve Williams addressed his celebratory remarks in the wake of Adam Scott’s WGC-Bridgestone Invitational in August, just weeks after being fired by longtime boss Tiger Woods, thusly: “My aim was to shove it right up that black --------.”

I wonder if Adam Scott will fire him. This is going to be all over the news.

http://www.golfchannel.com/news/jaso...er-boss-woods/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/gol...-employer.html

[Joborule]

He's not gonna end the hear of this. What an idiotic thing to say.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I'm confused. The article makes it seem as if the part blanked out is a-hole. Since when is that racist?

It then says he made mention of Woods being half black/half asian but I don't see that either.

While it would already create major international headlines with Williams referring to Woods as part of the biological posterior, the fact that he referred to his mixed heritage makes it so far out of bounds that the white stakes aren’t even visible – no pun intended.

Calling your former boss an a-hole isn't very nice but it isn't racist. What am I missing here?

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I'm confused. The article makes it seem as if the part blanked out is a-hole. Since when is that racist?

It then says he made mention of Woods being half black/half asian but I don't see that either.




Calling your former boss an ####### isn't very nice but it isn't racist.

Yuh, it took me a while to find out what the blanked word was. Most people wont count up the letters and will just infer that it was the N-word.

Twitter seems to be suggesting he said "black ar--hole", but not sure. Possibly not as bad imo, but still a really stupid thing to say.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Well Im thinking a-hole because of the "posterior" part in the article.

But in the part I quoted it very clearly says that Williams made reference to his mixed heritage.

If all he said was a-hole then shame on the Golf Channel for suggesting it was racial. Like most others I assumed it was the N-word until I noticed it didn't really fit the sentence.

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Well Im thinking a-hole because of the "posterior" part in the article.

But in the part I quoted it very clearly says that Williams made reference to his mixed heritage.

If all he said was a-hole then shame on the Golf Channel for suggesting it was racial. Like most others I assumed it was the N-word until I noticed it didn't really fit the sentence.

He did say "black"- if you do a quick google search, every news agency is running with the racial epithet suggestion, which is probably accurate

[Calgaryborn]

I've forgiven him already. Losing your job after so many years is tough. Losing a long time friendship at the same time is even harder. He had been drinking and it sounds like the night was for caddies. I'm sure Woods wasn't the only boss talked about.

[jammies]

He should apologize like this: "I think we can all agree that Tiger Woods is just a plain old arsehole. If I were black, I wouldn't want to be associated with him in any way, either. Sorry."

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

He did say "black"- if you do a quick google search, every news agency is running with the racial epithet suggestion, which is probably accurate

Yeah but I almost think there must be more here. I know news agencies love to sensationalize news stories but saying this was a racial slur is way out of line. Calling him an a-hole vs a black a-hole isn't that much different to me. It is the ahole part people should be concentrating on. I guess it wouldn't really be a story then though, would it? If the news headlines were "Woods caddy calls him an ahole" everyone would collectively shrug it off as "we already knew that". In fact it wouldn't even be a headline or widely reported. Throw in the racist part and it is an international scandal.

There are two things to look at. When he said black ahole vs ahole, was it racially motivated? And secondly, is "black" a racial slur or a derogatory term? I know in the states African American is the preferred word (which I think is beyond moronic but I digress) but to a large extent people around the world use black as an acceptable method to describe a black person. At the end of the day newspapers are desperate to make headlines and throwing in his race was unnecessary. Just a-hole would have sufficed.

I mean what he said is accurate isn't it? Tiger Woods' bum, and specifically the hole, is black isn't it? On second thought maybe it is more of a shade of pink like the rest of us. Or possibly diamond encrusted.

[woob]

Originally Posted by Joborule

He's not gonna end the hear of this.

[DropIt]

I get what people are getting at, saying that by saying ' Black A-hole' he isn't being racist because refering to a black person as 'black' isn't considered racist.

But when you go out of your way to define that he isant and A-hole, but a black A-hole, I can see why it's defined as racist. In my opinion, refering to a black person as 'Black' isn't racist, but when you go out of your way to define someone as thei colour I can support the claim for racism

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by DropIt

I get what people are getting at, saying that by saying ' Black A-hole' he isn't being racist because refering to a black person as 'black' isn't considered racist.

But when you go out of your way to define that he isant and A-hole, but a black A-hole, I can see why it's defined as racist. In my opinion, refering to a black person as 'Black' isn't racist, but when you go out of your way to define someone as thei colour I can support the claim for racism

Yeah it looks like that is the route the media is taking. I get that adding in the black part isn't necessary but I hardly think it makes this a racial slur or Williams a racist. Uncalled for though in any event.

I did google it and I'm seeing numerous headlines calling this a racial slur. Racial undertones maybe but racial slur? That makes no sense whatsoever.

For example, this is from Reuters. Based on this alone you'd think Williams got up there in black face or a KKK outfit and called him a friggin porch monkey or something.

The caddie Steve Williams shocked guests at an awards ceremony in Shanghai with an obscene, racist remark aimed at his former employer Tiger Woods.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I mean what he said is accurate isn't it? Tiger Woods' bum, and specifically the hole, is black isn't it? On second thought maybe it is more of a shade of pink like the rest of us. Or possibly diamond encrusted.

That's pretty gay, dude. Not that there's anything wrong with being gay. But there's something wrong with your post. It's gayness is in the realm of uncomfortable.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by 4X4

That's pretty gay, dude. Not that there's anything wrong with being gay. But there's something wrong with your post. It's gayness is in the realm of uncomfortable.

I can see the headlines now.

4X4 makes obscene, homophobic remark towards fellow poster.

[zamler]

This thread started out weird, and quickly when to downright bizarre.

[puckluck]

I fail to see how that is racism or a racist term. Inflammatory, yes. Racism, no.

How many black comedians get away with saying "white a$$"?

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Yeah it looks like that is the route the media is taking. I get that adding in the black part isn't necessary but I hardly think it makes this a racial slur or Williams a racist. Uncalled for though in any event.

I did google it and I'm seeing numerous headlines calling this a racial slur. Racial undertones maybe but racial slur? That makes no sense whatsoever.

For example, this is from Reuters. Based on this alone you'd think Williams got up there in black face or a KKK outfit and called him a friggin porch monkey or something.

Basically my point exactly.

I wasn't there, but unless Williams was throwing down slurs that should only appear in 50 cent lyrics, then no, he wasn't going out of his way to be racist. However, the fact that he could have said '#######' instead of 'Black #######' is what the media took off with and won't let go of by my guess.

Effing honky's

[DropIt]

Ah, nm

[burnin_vernon]

Would any Caucasian here comfortably call someone a black (blank) in anger and believe there was nothing wrong with it? I sure wouldn't. The media will smother this but it's still a stupid thing to say.

Would he have said his aim was to shove it up Adam Scott's white (blank) if he fired him? Probably not. He's using the color in a disrespectful fashion; like an insult.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by burnin_vernon

Would any Caucasian here comfortably call someone a black (blank) in anger and believe there was nothing wrong with it? I sure wouldn't. The media will smother this but it's still a stupid thing to say.

Would he have said his aim was to shove it up Adam Scott's white (blank) if he fired him? Probably not. He's using the color in a disrespectful fashion; like an insult.

I might be mistaken but this was at a roast where pretty much anything goes and the point is to be funny.

Adding words to jokes sometimes make the jokes funnier which is why comedians throw in random swear words and can make the baddest joke funny by just adding one word and the way they deliver the joke.