Jason Kenny Announces Canada's withdrawl from Hatefest 3

[HOZ]

Another great step by our government.

[CaptainCrunch]

Good for the government, the Durban 1 II and III are absolute jokes. Proud that Canada wants no part of this. These conferences are another illustration that the UN is completely out of touch and needs to be reformed.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...126475,00.html

[Blaster86]

Didn't appreciate the shots at the left side of the aisle in the video, but that is to be expected.

Beyond that, good on us for not attending. The points he makes about reasons for not attending are pretty dead-on.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Didn't appreciate the shots at the left side of the aisle in the video, but that is to be expected.

Beyond that, good on us for not attending. The points he makes about reasons for not attending are pretty dead-on.

Yes it is expected because it is true. Durbin 1,2 and three is supported by cabal of radical left NGO's, feminist groups, Islamic groups and unions in Canada. All brought together by their hatred of the West and especially Israel (Jews).

[Daradon]

Feminist groups hate the West? And Israel?

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Feminist groups hate the West? And Israel?

Radical Feminists(If they can be called that anymore). Yes.

Example


What logical reason is their silence against Islams Misogyny? And really. What is Hamas position on the status of women in society? Slightly higher than a pet?

[Daradon]

Oh I don't disagree with countries boycotting the meeting. I don't disagree that nations with bad track records on human rights probably shouldn't be chairing and railroading groups like this and in the UN. And I am very upset with the status that women have in third world countries like this and under Sharia law and similar doctrines. However, I think it's a bit of a stretch (and kind of meaningless) to say feminists hate Israel and the West. Obviously that isn't true. Even great scores of 'radical feminists' don't fall under that category.

As for the pic, I have no idea if those are feminists or not. It could be any type of protest. There's plenty of men in that pic. And yeah, men walk in feminist rallies, but not usually that many. As well, if they really did stand up for things like Sharia law, I doubt they would really be feminists anyway. Maybe they think they are, but I doubt many groups, collectives, organizations, or book clubs would take them in as one.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Daradon

I doubt they would really be feminists anyway. .

Well we certainly agree 100%. I doubt they are feminists but they call themselves so. So I will put it is parenthesis...." Radical feminists"

Who they are?

CODE PINK



This isn't the only feminist group to oppose the west and Israel.

For Canada all you have to do is google Hedy Fry+Durban. She signed the first declaration.

[Daradon]

Ok, I googled as you said, and I actually got what seems to be the opposite.

'Hedy Fry is the Liberal MP for Vancouver Centre and a member of the Canadian Parliamentary Coalition to Combat Antisemitism.'

http://www.cjpac.ca/en/2009/06/hedy-...anti-semitism/

Now I obviously know politicians often say one thing and do another, but it seems like there could be several different stories or interpretations here. Just because the first declaration was signed doesn't mean the leap you are making is correct. There could be plenty of explanations, especially if she is talking about the dangerous rise of anti-semitism in 09. I would have to do more research, but the first things I find don't seem to suggest an anti-Israel bias or an anti-Israel bias coming from a feminist.

As for Code Pink, they're feminists that are anti-war. Obviously they are one of those fringe groups that use shock and ignorant messages to get their point across and probably know little about specific situations, and one can't really agree with them for that. But they're not for the destruction of the State of Israel, they have problems with the human rights violations that have happened there. A position that is taken by many others.

I have never read any feminist literature that called for the destruction of the State of Israel. They have other problems to be concerned about. And lots of the literature I have read does focus on issues like women in the third world or the problems with Sharia law, so they would be concerned about problems in countries where human rights abuses are rampant.

While Code Pink may be anti-Israel, (and I think they are just anti-war really, and get angry about any type of conflict) focusing on one group to label a whole is like focusing on that wacky group that protests military and gay funerals with signs that say 'God Hates Fags' and saying Christians are hateful and intolerant.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Daradon

focusing on one group to label a whole is like focusing on that wacky group that protests military and gay funerals with signs that say 'God Hates Fags' and saying Christians are hateful and intolerant.

When did I do this Daradon? You seem to not read my posts. A groups that protests military funerals seem radical to me. How about you?

A leftist group that is completely Anti-Western and Israel is...ummmm radical. How many times should I type radical? Radical is an adjective defining the group that I am talking about from another much larger one.

Kenny was obviously talking about these people as well. A Liberal is NOT part of this group or should not be. Unfortunately, the Liberal Party people were. The Dippers....well...they have Libby and others, the Sea-Hitler supporters, the unions and the radical feminists that represent no one but themselves.

NGO declaration at the Durban conference. See 160-165 and 426


http://bokertov.typepad.com/btb/2008...israel-wo.html

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Yes it is expected because it is true. Durbin 1,2 and three is supported by cabal of radical left NGO's, feminist groups, Islamic groups and unions in Canada. All brought together by their hatred of the West and especially Israel (Jews).

Right there. Obviously all feminist groups don't. Obviously all radical feminist groups don't. Therefore, I'd say that's unfairly labeling a whole group. You could have mentioned specific groups, or specific feminist groups, but you didn't. Later you added pics of a specific group but that's hardly proof of a gross generalization like that above. Nor was it really proof that they are anti-Israel. Just really idiotic about being anti-war.

Perhaps you say, well I didn't mean ALL feminist groups when I wrote that, just some. But you didn't say 'some feminist groups' and you didn't cite examples. Perhaps it was just a unfortunate oversight, or a typing mistake, but it's these types of broad sweeping generalizations with the constant backpeddling that get so many riled up about many of your posts.

[worth]

Whether you like the conservatives or not, it's nice to have a government that knows where they stand and actually follows through with their ideals after years of fence sitting by the Liberals.

[SebC]

I'm far from being a conservative supporter, but I'm fully with them on this. It's a no-brainer.

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Right there.

The adjective radical prefaced that list. I noticed you didn't jump all over the mention of Islamic groups and unions.