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Old 07-08-2011, 11:18 AM   #1
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1200 jobs cut! Government jobs! When have you, in your lifetime, ever seen a Government actually CUT government?

Well done Harper! And in the right place to start with! 1.6 billion dollars cut.
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1200 jobs cut! Government jobs! When have you, in your lifetime, ever seen a Government actually CUT government?
Are you forgetting about the time when Jean Chretien's Liberal majorities significantly cut government during the 90s to balance the budget? You seem to be such a huge fan of eliminating public sector jobs, so surely you must have been first in line to applaud the Liberals when they reduced the federal workforce by 55,000 people, right?

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Finance Minister Jim Flaherty asked for a review of the Liberal government’s ambitious spending cuts to programs of the 1990s a full year before there was any hint the Conservatives might do the same thing, according to documents obtained by CBC News.

The briefing note to Flaherty, obtained through the Access to Information Act, examines program review, a massive exercise the Liberal government launched in 1994 to cut $13.3 billion in expenses. When the program was finished, the government eliminated 55,000 positions from the federal public sector and created user fees to help raise revenue.
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http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story...dget-cuts.html
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Old 07-08-2011, 11:52 AM   #6
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Are you forgetting about the time when Jean Chretien's Liberal majorities significantly cut government during the 90s to balance the budget? You seem to be such a huge fan of eliminating public sector jobs, so surely you must have been first in line to applaud the Liberals when they reduced the federal workforce by 55,000 people, right?



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http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story...dget-cuts.html

March Hare I am obviously mistaken. Though I suspect that this great government cut was Chretien's "health care cost" shift to the provinces. Where no one benefited. Not sure though. More government cuts the better.

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Chretien also cut the military to the point where there was nothing left.

Regardless, it wasn't the cuts that were as important back then, but the select reforms to our pension systems, etc, etc....and Paul Martin was the reason that happened.

But good on Harper as well. We're running a deficit, so something has to go.
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The hilarious part to me is how all these special interest groups, otherwise known as lobbyists, otherwise known as the scum of the earth when it comes to politics are all screaming bloody murder now that their paycheck is being taken away.
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The hilarious part to me is how all these special interest groups, otherwise known as lobbyists, otherwise known as the scum of the earth when it comes to politics are all screaming bloody murder now that their paycheck is being taken away.

You really have to admire their take that all these various special interest organizations have their spending of government spending. Every dollar they spent there is no a single penny wasted anywhere. THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY certain that every program they run is at least at value for every dollar spent.Please click for NGO heaven.

The very idea that anything could be done with less money is inconceivable! In fact, they NEED more! After all, if they do everything so well with what they currently have, doing it with even more would be just, like, super awesome.
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I want to make fun of so much in this sentence.
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Regardless of whether it's beneficial or not, celebrating the fact that 1200 people are now unemployed with as much enthusiasm as you are is pretty sick. Stay classy, HOZ.

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Old 07-08-2011, 12:51 PM   #12
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I would be more impressed if it was 12000 jobs cut. User fees are needed to be added to the Health Care System as well, but I believe that would be a provincial matter. They should also stop any increases to the money the provinces get for health care. Time for the money pit to end.
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Regardless of whether it's beneficial or not, celebrating the fact that 1200 people are now unemployed with as much enthusiasm are you are is pretty sick. Stay classy, HOZ.
PUUUULLLLEEEASE!

These weren't some poor family along the Maritimes forced into the EI because they were longer allowed to fish because of some well healed bureaucrat deciding that they should not. This was WELL HEALED BUREAUCRATS no longer ALLOWED to tell those poor families what they can an cannot do.

Stay REAL Rubecube.
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Regardless of whether it's beneficial or not, celebrating the fact that 1200 people are now unemployed with as much enthusiasm are you are is pretty sick. Stay classy, HOZ.
Yeah, really. Whether or not you feel that the jobs were necessary, people still lost their livelihood and some families are going to impacted pretty hard by it. It's a terrible thing to be happy about. I also seriously doubt that this is going to translate into more money in anyone's pocket. The government will find another way to waste it.
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PUUUULLLLEEEASE!

These weren't some poor family along the Maritimes forced into the EI because they were longer allowed to fish because of some well healed bureaucrat deciding that they should not. This was WELL HEALED BUREAUCRATS no longer ALLOWED to tell those poor families what they can an cannot do.

Stay REAL Rubecube.
All 12,000 of them huh? You sure there wasn't a sizeable chunk of low and mid level office staffers, recent grads etc.? Are you honestly saying that this was 12,000 well off bureaucrats?

Regardless, the point stands. Good decision or bad the glee with which you treat it is completely devoid of class.
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All 12,000 of them huh? You sure there wasn't a sizeable chunk of low and mid level office staffers, recent grads etc.? Are you honestly saying that this was 12,000 well off bureaucrats?

Regardless, the point stands. Good decision or bad the glee with which you treat it is completely devoid of class.
Ummm. It was 1200, not 12,000.

Secondly, to assist HOZ, I sincerely doubt he's gloating over someone's misfortune and more excited to see the government make a prudent economic decision.
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Ummm. It was 1200, not 12,000.

Secondly, to assist HOZ, I sincerely doubt he's gloating over someone's misfortune and more excited to see the government make a prudent economic decision.
Whoops, too many zeroes.

As to the second point, I'd give him the benefit but I've seen this over the top act from him over and over again.
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:16 PM   #18
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I can understand that there are people out there who are in favour of smaller government but I can't understand cheering for limiting the evironmental oversight on water.

Perhaps you know something that I don't but the last time I checked, clean water was still fairly important.

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I think this is horrible IMO. Environment Canada is already strung out, at least in the meteorology area. While I don't know which jobs specifically are being cut in EC, I'm sure the effects will trickle down to the entire entity.
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An article with a few more details HERE.

Some highlights (lowlights?):

-Some of the biggest cuts were in the program activities of Climate Change and Clean Air, Substance and Waste Management, Weather and Environmental Services, Water Resources and Internal Services

- Specific programs in which funding was reduced include the Action Plan on Clean Water and the Federal Contaminated Sites Action Plan

- The specific programs that were cut this year include the Chemicals Management Plan, the Clean Air Agenda and the Air Quality Health Index

- The specific programs that will be cut next year include Species at Risk
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