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Deelow · 06-08-2011, 11:22 PM

So let me tell you a story about what happened to me today...
Decided to play the back 9 of the local course with a couple buddies. Things were going OK, but it was moving slow. The group ahead had us waiting on most tee boxes. Our group also had a couple guys that have a hard time hitting the ball straight..so the guys behind us were forced to wait too, whatever that's golf.

We hit our tee shots on the 17th. 2 buddies go into the trees. They start looking for their balls, it takes a little while. The group behind us gets to the tee box and starts screaming at us to hurry up. We ignore it. They sail 3 beautiful drives right over our heads. Dick move, but whatever we ignore. This hole is a par 5 so as we're setting up for our 3rd shots they do it again. Another ball comes flying past my head. At this point I am pretty pissed but I am golfing on a corporate membership and don't want to be part of a confrontation...again I say or do nothing. By the time we finish putting one of these guys is 30 yards off ready to chip on. We decide that as a nice treat for him we will "forget" to put the flag back in. He sees this and snaps. Lines up his shot and fires it right at me. It was a wedge so it was way over my head but still.... this son of a bitch then ran over to our cart and took my driver. Screaming at me to put the flag back in. These were 3 Korean dudes in their 50s. Very hard to understand...but he was getting his point across. He refused to give me back my driver and I refused to put the pin in. Hmm, what to do? I decide I will drive my cart over to his and do one of two things. A) Throw his bag in the water hazard or B) Take a club of my choosing. I start on my way when his even more crazy buddy runs up to my moving cart and starts swinging his 7 iron at me. We are talking broken bones if he connects. I have to abort this plan. I turn the cart around and head back to the green to confront the driver thief. By this time he is in a heated dispute with my buddy about the rules of golf. I just walk up to him and grab the driver out of his hand. Well, he didn't like that one bit...he decides that he will barricade the golf cart. I gave him a couple warnings to get out of my way, he wouldn't do it so I turned the wheels and hit the gas hoping to just drive around him. Instead he grabbed onto the frame and tried to block me. So I kicked him. Right in the gut!!! Knocked him off the cart but he kept his balance and started running beside me. He still had his wedge in his hand, he starts swinging it me..making contact with the body of the cart. His buddy is also now chasing me and swinging away for my head, he's making contact with the roof of the cart. I realize it's only a matter of time until one of them hits me so I decide to slam on the brakes and take the fight outside. Both of these guys are armed, now with sharp broken shafts. I jump out and surprise them. Grab the first guy and take him to the ground, remember these guys are tiny little 50 year olds. At this point I feel like unloading on the guy. He's down, I could hurt him but I hear the other guy coming from behind and I know he's carrying a broken club. Right when he was about to carve me up my buddy catches him, grabs his arm and stops him. Everyone kinda gets up. They've both got weapons, I've got my hands around the first guy's throat and my friend says "how about I just put the pin back in". Both of them just nod and walk back onto the green to finish the hole.

That was probably one of the strangest events of my life. We still had a hole left to finish and the adrenaline was pumping. I bet I would have crushed my drive but decided to pack it in after 8. We had another meeting with these guys on the 18th tee box where they came up and tried to shake our hands.

In the melee the shaft of my 3 wood was broken, probably by one of their club swings but other than that no injuries...I'm not sure how to handle the situation from this point forward. I obviously don't feel like I'm in the wrong but I was also the first to use violence. Maybe explaining the incident to the pro would be a good idea...but I also don't want the negative attention on the company I work for. Any advice? Feels good to get that off my chest.

Dion · 06-08-2011, 11:32 PM

You should have reported the group behind you to the clubhouse and let them deal with them. Better yet just let them play through. It's what i've done with groups that are impatient.

Not putting the flag back in escalated the whole incident and someone could have been seriously hurt. IMO it was not a smart move on your part. Both groups bear responsibility for the escalation and should just take it as a lesson learned and not to try something like that again.

malcolmk14 · 06-08-2011, 11:37 PM

Hahaha. No way. I can't ever imagine a situation in which I would get into an all-out brawl with weapon-wielding Koreans on a golf course. If they hit into me a second time I probably would have teed one up and sent it right back their way.

That would have been amazing if you threw his bag in the water hazard. Could you imagine the look on his face?!

Dion · 06-08-2011, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Hahaha. No way. I can't ever imagine a situation in which I would get into an all-out brawl with weapon-wielding Koreans on a golf course. If they hit into me a second time I probably would have teed one up and sent it right back their way.

I've had to deal with agitated golfers like that and felt letting them play through was the best option. Is it worth it getting into a confrontation?

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That would have been amazing if you threw his bag in the water hazard. Could you imagine the look on his face?!

I don't understand why golfers feel the need to escalate the situation. It wouldn't be a laughing matter is someone was hurt badly. I suspect if the golf course found out, both parties would be banned and rightly so.

Flabbibulin · 06-09-2011, 12:03 AM

Sorry, but I found a lot of irony in one aspect of the story-

koreans getting ticked at the slow pace of play on the golf course?!?

Anyways, I have played thousands of rounds of golf in my life. I have been held up by slow groups more times than I can remember- Sure I have muttered stuff quietly under my breath, but I have never been rude to fellow golfers for slow play. Everyone has to start somewhere and I can remember being a bad golfer that took forever to finish a hole. If things are slow enough, I will kindly mention it to the marshall.

In my experience, golfers that are often rude to other groups are the same ones that get up to the tee box and hit a slice or duck hook that would scare a banana

malcolmk14 · 06-09-2011, 12:13 AM

To be clear I would do everything possible to avoid the situation including trying to let them play through. But if it somehow got to the point that they were physically threatening me anyway, throwing the golf bag in the hazard is about the most hilarious thing that could happen.

My comment about Teeing one up and hitting it back at them was in jest, that's never happened to me in hundreds of rounds of golf and I can't imagine it ever would, I set the pace pretty well for the people behind me, i think.

I have had someone accuse me of hitting into them before, but it just wasn't true. The ball they claimed was mine came from another hole. The Marshall didn't know who to believe so to avoid any kind of nonsense I just let a group behind me play through so they separated our group and the complainers.

HOZ · 06-09-2011, 12:17 AM

I would take Dion's advice next time. Very sensible.

Frank MetaMusil · 06-09-2011, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dion

I don't understand why golfers feel the need to escalate the situation. It wouldn't be a laughing matter is someone was hurt badly. I suspect if the golf course found out, both parties would be banned and rightly so.

Hitting into people in the first place is escalating it IMO. There is no better feeling than teeing up some jagoff's golf ball and firing it right back at them. I'll throw down on the golf course if it comes to that. Great story OP.

Dion · 06-09-2011, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Hitting into people in the first place is escalating it IMO. There is no better feeling than teeing up some jagoff's golf ball and firing it right back at them. I'll throw down on the golf course if it comes to that. Great story OP.

Hitting into people is wrong. Hitting it back or leaving the pin out makes you no better. I've been hit into on a few occasions and have let the group play through. Maybe it's worth a possible confrontation to you, it isn't for me.

Cheerio · 06-09-2011, 12:40 AM

hahahhahahahah, funniest post of the day imo

HotHotHeat · 06-09-2011, 01:18 AM

Sure there's sensible advice being given, but no one has mentioned how awesome it is that you were in an all out brawl on the golf course.

Ozy_Flame · 06-09-2011, 01:32 AM

That was awesome Deelow, just epic. I don't have any advice, but that was a damn good story lol . . .

Buzzard · 06-09-2011, 01:52 AM

Were they nuck fans Happy?

alan21 · 06-09-2011, 02:38 AM

Done!

Deelow · 06-09-2011, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dion

Hitting into people is wrong. Hitting it back or leaving the pin out makes you no better. I've been hit into on a few occasions and have let the group play through. Maybe it's worth a possible confrontation to you, it isn't for me.

Sorry Dion but there is a big difference between risking someone's safety twice on the same hole and simply leaving the pin out. I realize our mothers taught us 2 wrongs don't make a right but in certain circumstances that goes out the window...even on a golf course.

metallicat · 06-09-2011, 05:52 AM

Hit into you once, fine, mistakes happen. Twice? That's intentional, and their ball/balls are either getting stomped into the ground, or tossed into the bushes. Your choice at that point. If they start trying to fight, defend yourself and call the pro shop.

JohnnyB · 06-09-2011, 05:59 AM

The only thing I think you should have done that you didn't is going to report the guys right after it happened. Was there no damage to the cart?

I think anyone could understand a kick to the gut in the situation as you tell it, given that his buddy was swinging a club at you.

The Goon · 06-09-2011, 06:38 AM

Walking the course is healthier than taking a cart, apparently.

TopChed · 06-09-2011, 06:54 AM

I guess even 50 year old Korean dudes become tough guys when they have a bag full of golf clubs with them.

HalifaxDrunk · 06-09-2011, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dion

I've been hit into on a few occasions and have let the group play through. Maybe it's worth a possible confrontation to you, it isn't for me.

Letting them hit into your group (luckly no one was actually hit) is OK with you? "Sure go ahead buddy, have a nice day." Do you at least tell them to continue to be careful when they fire golf balls at the next foursome in front of you. Why would someone stop doing this is everyone just lets them play through? I have a buddy who was hit in the side of the neck from one of these idiots (he was OK, but had a welt for a few days), we did get a free round and they got booted off.

Hitting a shot into a group is plain bullying (hurry up or your gonna get hit mentality) and people who do it need to be taught a lesson. The OP may have taken it a bit far but I bet they think twice about doing it again. If someone is taking too long in front of you catch up to them and ask to play through on the next hole. If they say no then throw their bag into the water, kick them in the gut and choke them out.