6 minute Xbox 360 video released

[Inferno]

http://msxb.wmod.llnwd.net/a274/o2/ourcolo...ony_v1_750k.wmv

Whether I get one or not when it's released depends on it's launch titles and whether or not the ones I'm interested in are console only games.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

It will be interesting to see how quick the h4x0rs take to pwned this new console. With the proprietary parts and connectors, their task will be much harder.

Not sure if I like the new controller, they seem to have jettisoned some of the existing buttons. Those were always great for rapid access to maps/items etc during gameplay.

By waiting another year, PS3 is rumored to be even better than XBOX 360. Interestingly enough, ATI shares jumped 7% today on the X360's release. Don't these guys read the internet?

[photon]

It's got some cool features that I like. I'd really like it though if it was backwards compatible... something they're supposedly working on (though they wouldn't say even if they had it working, undercut their current sales).

[Inferno]

http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-x-1970-x-x-x

There's a better look at it's controller.

[Calgary Flames]

Originally posted by photon@May 13 2005, 03:22 PM
It's got some cool features that I like. I'd really like it though if it was backwards compatible... something they're supposedly working on (though they wouldn't say even if they had it working, undercut their current sales).

Isn't it? I saw Fable in the Games portion of the new dashboard.

[metallicat]

Sold.

How much, and when?

[Inferno]

They havent announced the price of it but apparently whether it was by accident or not MTV announced that it will be released in November.

[photon]

Originally posted by Calgary Flames@May 13 2005, 03:38 PM
Isn't it? I saw Fable in the Games portion of the new dashboard.

Yeah, this pic sure makes it look that way:

http://www.turd_ferguson.shackspace.com/XBOX360BC.jpg

They haven't said any thing official about it (nothing in any of the specs released or articles or interviews one way or the other). But I'm sure they're trying. It'd be quite difficult to do however considering the totally different platform (different processor, video chipset, etc).

When is later this year, before Christmas for sure.

I think the $ amounts running around have been $299 for the base console, and $360 for the version with the hard drive (both US dollars).

[Inferno]

These are what its specs are suppose to be:

Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
Three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each (These are the same processors found in a Mac G5 computer)
Two hardware threads per core; six hardware threads total
VMX-128 vector unit per core; three total
128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
1 MB L2 cache

CPU Game Math Performance
9 billion dot product operations per second

Custom ATI Graphics Processor
10 MB of embedded DRAM
48-way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines
Unified shader architecture

Polygon Performance
500 million triangles per second

Pixel Fill Rate
16 gigasamples per second fill rate using 4x MSAA

Shader Performance
48 billion shader operations per second

Memory
512 MB of GDDR3 RAM
700 MHz of DDR
Unified memory architecture

Memory Bandwidth
22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
21.6 GB/s front-side bus

Overall System Floating-Point Performance
1 teraflop

Storage
Detachable and upgradeable 20GB hard drive
12x dual-layer DVD-ROM
Memory Unit support starting at 64 MB

I/O
Support for up to four wireless game controllers
Three USB 2.0 ports
Two memory unit slots

Optimized for Online
Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features with broadband service, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, gamer profile for digital identity, and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies, or listening to music
Built-in Ethernet port
Wi-Fi ready: 802.11a, 802.11b, and 802.11g
Video camera ready

Digital Media Support
Support for DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD • Ability to stream media from portable music devices, digital cameras and Windows XP-based PCs
Ability to rip music to the Xbox 360 hard drive
Custom playlists in every game
Built-in Media Center Extender for Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
Interactive, full-screen 3-D visualizers

High-Definition Game Support
All games supported at 16:9, 720p, and 1080i, anti-aliasing
Standard-definition and high-definition video output supported

Audio
Multi-channel surround sound output
Supports 48KHz 16-bit audio
320 independent decompression channels
32-bit audio processing
Over 256 audio channels


They also have a site up at http://www.xbox360.com that gives you a better look at the console and controller.

[AC]

What exactly does backwards-compatible mean?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally posted by AnthonyCook@May 13 2005, 05:03 PM
What exactly does backwards-compatible mean?

Bi-Sexual?

[Inferno]

Originally posted by AnthonyCook@May 13 2005, 06:03 PM
What exactly does backwards-compatible mean?

It means that you will be able to play Xbox games on the Xbox 360.

[Josh]

Looks cool, but I think I'll be waiting for the PS3. Plus it looks like you're going to need an HDTV to really appreciate these new consoles.

[La Flames Fan]

I'm in line at BestBuy already....

[Mike F]

Hey X-Box nerds (jk).

I haven't owned a console since the Sega Genesis, but I found this article from Wired really interesting, looking at the development of the Microsoft's gaming strategy and a look to the future.

[I_H8_Crawford]

From what I understand is if you just buy the 360, it's not backwards compatible... you need to purchase the HDD for it, and that will include instructions in it to make the 360 backwards compatible.
Makes sense... MS knows that owners of the orignal Xbox will most likely get the 360 with the HDD - just so much nicer than having to purchase 6 memory cards, and so no reason not to get it.

[ernie]

Originally posted by I-Hate-Hulse@May 13 2005, 02:12 PM
By waiting another year, PS3 is rumored to be even better than XBOX 360. Interestingly enough, ATI shares jumped 7% today on the X360's release. Don't these guys read the internet?

Yeah that's the rumour and has been. It should be more powerful if given an extra year to tweak (like the X-box vs PS2...which when it comes to gaming power is an absolute slaughter).

That said there seems to be a few "experts" who are getting sneak peeks at these consoles that the PS3 has a lot of power but that power isn't being harnessed for gameplay properly or efficiently. They think the power thing is in the end going to be quite close. In the end it is the games that matter and with the headstart, if Microsoft puts together an impressive array of launch software it may determine who comes out ahead.

It really isn't dependent on the machine performance when they are both going to perform very well it is going to come from software and on-line play. I'd imagine that X-box keeps the advantage in online play for a good while. Can they get an advantage with games?

What I like is that X-Box 360 is going to allow atleast some portion of online gameplay for free. You won't get all the bells and whistles but you shouldn't have to pay unless you want to be a hardcore online gamer.

[FlamesAddiction]

Man, I am finally in the market for something like this and now I don't know if I should just wait.

I put off buying an Xbox or PS2 until I was done university, and now I find out there is something better coming out.

[Faid1]

Originally posted by I_H8_Crawford@May 14 2005, 08:09 AM
From what I understand is if you just buy the 360, it's not backwards compatible... you need to purchase the HDD for it, and that will include instructions in it to make the 360 backwards compatible.
Makes sense... MS knows that owners of the orignal Xbox will most likely get the 360 with the HDD - just so much nicer than having to purchase 6 memory cards, and so no reason not to get it.

What the.....? Where did you get that idea from.

They haven't specified any plans for backward compatibility yet because they simply don't know if they can emulate the Xbox on it or not. The Xbox 360 comes a hard drive (20gb) that can be upgraded.

[Inferno]

Originally posted by FlamesAddiction@May 14 2005, 04:31 PM
Man, I am finally in the market for something like this and now I don't know if I should just wait.

I put off buying an Xbox or PS2 until I was done university, and now I find out there is something better coming out.

Yeah, I was in the same situation as you at the beginning of the year and if it wasnt for my friend telling me about the Xbox 360 coming out this year I would have bought an Xbox or PS2.