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Old 05-05-2011, 09:04 AM   #1
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I've been busy and haven't had a chance to read the last few pages of the Osama is dead thread but I have a question for those who think the US government is lying and that Osama isn't actually dead.

How do you know he was alive to begin with?

How do you know that he wasn't a fictional character fabricated by the government to focus your hatred on while everything else was carried out exactly as you believe happened?

This would mean that they didn't actually have to kill him (as he never actually existed) and no matter what fabrications the US comes up with you won't believe because they aren't true as this 7 foot tall, Muslim man with the Santa Claus beard didn't actually exist.

Just curious, I don't mean to poke the fire, but I don't understand how a group of people won't believe anything the government tells them EXCEPT that Osama actually exists. Wouldn't the ultimate conspiracy be that he's fictional?
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:10 AM   #2
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If he doesnt have a video release in which he states he isnt dead within the next 6 months it should be fairly obvious to anyone that he is now dust to dust, ashes to ashes.

Obama wouldnt come on National TV 2 years before the next election and announce he was dead unless he was rock solid.
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:12 AM   #3
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If he doesnt have a video release in which he states he isnt dead within the next 6 months it should be fairly obvious to anyone that he is now dust to dust, ashes to ashes.

Obama wouldnt come on National TV 2 years before the next election and announce he was dead unless he was rock solid.
Unless he's been set up by Dick Cheney's buddies in the US Military and this is all just a conspiracy to undermine Obama's credibility.

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The dude can shave his beard and be driving a cab in NY, and no one would know who he is.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:26 AM   #6
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So speaking of conspiracy theories regarding OBL...
Way back when 9/11 actually occurred there was a verified published report (also in print and online MSM) that a CIA agent met with Osama something like a 7-10 days prior to 9/11. There was always a feeling that the was in the "inside" and was a puppet of the CIA, going back as far as the Soviet-era invasion days. So then 9/11 happens and he's made out to be this big bad guy (not saying that he wasn't..)

So with that said, wouldn't it be interesting that he had been living in this house for the last 6 years, paid for by the U.S., "hiding out" in plain sight of the Pakistani military (and in turn the U.S.)? Was this a capture/kill mission or was it an extraction of an agent at the end of his mission/acting role?

The Osama story has been played out, it was politically convenient to end it and he has been extracted from the mission with a cover story of his death. Now he can go anywhere he wants (after some appearance modification) and live out the rest of his life in peace, probably with a fat bank account somewhere.

Now it's turning out that only one of the people in the entire compound was armed... Interesting... By not releasing the pictures/video they are providing some fuel to the fire, but I doubt that 90% of the world population actually believes that he's alive.

I'm not saying it's what happened, but it makes for an interesting alternate scenario.

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if only we had some meddling kids cruising the countryside in thier multi-colored van.....surely them (and their pizza loving dog) could easily solve this mystery as surely it involves someone wearing a mask.......

i can't help but think that no matter what happens with this situation there will always be non-believers.......and i also think the sheer number of people you would need to pull off this whole conspiracy would be incredible.......
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One of the great misconceptions about conspiracies is that they work best when few people are actually in the know. Everyone always assumes that thousands of people must be involved, but it is in fact 2 or 3 at most that direct everything, with every action or issued order under the guise of something else that's hidden in plain sight.
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I possess a time traveling DeLorean. I was the one who shot JFK from the grassy knoll. Why? Because I hated the way he pronounced vigor.
I always hated the way he said "chowder"...
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One of the great misconceptions about conspiracies is that they work best when few people are actually in the know. Everyone always assumes that thousands of people must be involved, but it is in fact 2 or 3 at most that direct everything, with every action or issued order under the guise of something else that's hidden in plain sight.
The Manhattan Project involved tens of thousands of people, in New York of all places..... and was kept secret for as long as they needed...
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One of the great misconceptions about conspiracies is that they work best when few people are actually in the know. Everyone always assumes that thousands of people must be involved, but it is in fact 2 or 3 at most that direct everything, with every action or issued order under the guise of something else that's hidden in plain sight.

Wait...what?
So it's a misconception that conspiracies work best when only a few people are in on it, and in reality uslaly only 2 or 3 people that know about the ones that are going on?

Do you understand why that statement makes no sense.
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Everybody knows that Osama is still alive. He's simple reverted to his reptilian form. He's currently in a large underground network built by the Rothschilds. He's meeting with the five most succesful Jews in Hollywood while awaiting transport to the planet Rodax 7.
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The Manhattan Project involved tens of thousands of people, in New York of all places..... and was kept secret for as long as they needed...
If Japan had randomly been bombed without anyone ever knowing who actually did it, you might have a point.
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Not to mention secrets were a lot easier to keep in the 1940s.
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If Japan had randomly been bombed without anyone ever knowing who actually did it, you might have a point.
Pretty sure they didn't come up with nuclear weapons the same day the bombing occured........like I said it was kept secret for as long as they needed.
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Pretty sure they didn't come up with nuclear weapons the same day the bombing occured........like I said it was kept secret for as long as they needed.
True, it was a secret....but what was the conspiracy?
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Pretty sure they didn't come up with nuclear weapons the same day the bombing occured........like I said it was kept secret for as long as they needed.
Yes but, I do see a difference between the two. The Manhattan project was seen as moral. They were trying to develop a bomb to help with the protection of their nation. Japan had started the war.

If Obama was being kept alive by the American Government I could see someone seeing it as their moral duty to reveal the deception.
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