CFL Draft

[flambers]

Well the big draft is tomorrow. Will the Stamps trade the pick? Will they Select Jesse Lumsden?

IMO, the Stamps trade the #1 pick to Hamilton. Stamps get Hamiltons 1st round pick and a player (not sure who).

Any predictions........

[octothorp]

Originally posted by flambers@Apr 27 2005, 02:35 PM
Well the big draft is tomorrow. Will the Stamps trade the pick? Will they Select Jesse Lumsden?

IMO, the Stamps trade the #1 pick to Hamilton. Stamps get Hamiltons 1st round pick and a player (not sure who).

Any predictions........

I don't know, it's such a crapshoot, especially with Lumsden getting a serious look from Seattle. The problem is that I don't see anyone on Hamilton's roster that would make it worthwhile. How about this: Hamilton gets Lumsden and Calgary's second-round pick in 2006, Calgary gets Hamilton's first round pick this year and first round pick next year. No immediate impact, but you get an additional first-rounder next year, which could be very high (likely top 3 overall).

[browna]

Originally posted by octothorp+Apr 27 2005, 03:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (octothorp @ Apr 27 2005, 03:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-flambers@Apr 27 2005, 02:35 PM
Well the big draft is tomorrow. Will the Stamps trade the pick? Will they Select Jesse Lumsden?

IMO, the Stamps trade the #1 pick to Hamilton. Stamps get Hamiltons 1st round pick and a player (not sure who).

Any predictions........

I don't know, it's such a crapshoot, especially with Lumsden getting a serious look from Seattle. The problem is that I don't see anyone on Hamilton's roster that would make it worthwhile. How about this: Hamilton gets Lumsden and Calgary's second-round pick in 2006, Calgary gets Hamilton's first round pick this year and first round pick next year. No immediate impact, but you get an additional first-rounder next year, which could be very high (likely top 3 overall). [/b][/quote]
Yeah, the Stamps should've been playing up the fact that they were going to take him regardless.
Let Hamilton pay (the Stamps) to get the rights to this guy (to play where his dad played, and for his old CIAU coach).
He's going to Hamilton regardless IMO...if the Stamps don't trade him to Hamilton, another team will.
Get an extra pick this year or next, or a roster player, to move down a few spots in an otherwise faily wide open draft with no standout past Lumsden.

Not sure about how serious Lumsden is going to get looked at in Seattle. The only NFL team to step up, and this is standard for any undrafted FA to be invited to mini-camp, and they're all told the same hopefully underdog story to give them hope.
Sometimes its real hope, many other times, its false hope.

With Alexander, Maurice Morris, and fellow Canadian (who played a higher level of college ball at Stanford) in Kerry Carter (who rarely touches the field), Lumsden has a lot of work to do and dues to pay before getting regular playing time, if he gets through camp. But the seed has been planted, and will likely stick around as long in the NFL holding clipboards and making the NFL minimum as he can before having to return to Canada to actually play football.

[Cheese]

The CFL.ca prognostications:

1. Calgary - Miguel Robede (DL) - Robede played for Laval in 2004. They are a perennial CIS powerhouse and the defending champs. He originally started his college career with the Miami Hurricanes. He will eventually bring some toughness and strength to the Stamps defensive line. He will not start this season due to the Stampeders strong front four.

2. Ottawa - Fabio Filice (OL) - The Renegades were high on Robede. If he isn't drafted by Calgary look for him to be chosen by the Gades. Filice had a great combine and his stock went up. He will not start this season but the former McMaster grad will play. Ottawa needs help on the offensive line.

3. Saskatchewan - Chris Best (OL) - He is potentially scaring off teams with his desire to remain at school. This former Duke Blue Devil would fit in nicely with the veteran Roughrider o-line. He could learn his craft on the sidelines and learn from some of the best in Andrew Greene and Gene Makowsky.

4. Saskatchewan - Thomas Whitfield (DB) - He still has one more season of NCAA eligibility left. This could alter teams' plans but he might be too good to pass up in the first round. This off and on starter at Syracuse University could eventually be a ratio changer à la Davis Sanchez currently with Edmonton.

5. Ottawa - Les Mullings (FB) - The Renegades have a need for a bruising fullback and Mullings might fill the bill. Former fullbacks Mike Maurer and Mike Vilimek left the team as free agents. The team would love to draft linebacker Ray Fontaine from Kentucky but he has one more year of eligibility left and Ottawa needs players for this year.

6. Hamilton - Jesse Lumsden (RB) - Imagine him falling in the Tiger-Cats lap? With his recent signing with the Seattle Seahawks he went from potential No. 1 to No. 6. If Lumsden comes back to Canada, he could take over from the disgruntled Troy Davis. He has promised to leave Steeltown if a new deal does not get done before the end of the season. He is entering his option year and the Ticats are low balling him.

7. Saskatchewan - Nathan Hoffart (SB) - A no-brainer for the Roughriders organization. He was born and bred in Regina and played for the hometown Saskatchewan Huskies last season. He was a member of their 2003 track and field team. He could bide his time and learn from fellow non-imports Jason French and Corey Grant.

8. BC - Martin Lapostolle - (DL) - 6'2, 280 lb defensive lineman from Indiana University. The Lions could use some non-import depth at the front four-position. He could push youngsters Troy Cunningham and Nautyn McKay-Loescher for a job with the Leos. Lapostolle is picking up steam heading into the draft. There is a good chance that he might be drafted higher.

9. Toronto - Ray Fontaine - (LB) - The Argos might take a chance on this current Kentucky Wildcat. Fontaine has a year of college eligibility left. If Fontaine has an outstanding season at Kentucky in 2005 there is an outside chance that he gets drafted in the NFL in 2006.

dot ca's picks

[Radically Red]

Stamps dont take Lumnsdun.

But they also dont trade the pick either. They Take an O-linemen or Miguel Robede

[Flickered Flame]

Lots of talk here in Edmonton that the Esks maybe willing to part with Terry Vaughn inorder to get a first round pick.

[flambers]

On Fan 960, Kevin mentioned the Esk's are trying to get the #2 pick overall. The Esk are offering Vaughn. They have not heard any rumours from the Stamps. I still think the Stamps will move the pick. It will be a last minute trade.

[Cheese]

I think that Lumsden is going to be drafted #1....by the Stamps.

He will then be traded at a later date. Many teams have drafted players #1 who have signed contracts in the NFL before...including the Stamps.
You take the best player...thats Lumsden.

[habernac]

as long as they aren't drafting dead guys....

[Radically Red]

This is not the Ottawa Roughriders... LOL



I think the Stamps will try there best to trade the pick but wont get a buyer for the pick.

We need Canadian players now. For that reason I dont see Lumsden being picked. Still 30 odd minutes to go and we will find out..

[Mango]

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For updates

[JiriHrdina]

Originally posted by flambers@Apr 28 2005, 08:04 AM
On Fan 960, Kevin mentioned the Esk's are trying to get the #2 pick overall. The Esk are offering Vaughn. They have not heard any rumours from the Stamps. I still think the Stamps will move the pick. It will be a last minute trade.

Problem with that type of deal (import for a high pick) is that it wouldn't address one of the primary problems with the Stamps right now - lack of Canadian talent. You'd basically be giving up yet another Canadian talent for an import. Not suggesting that the Esks and Stamps would make this deal anyways (they never deal do they?) but it raises an interesting scenario. Good import for high? Should the Stamps consider such a deal?

[looooob]

stamps take robede

[Suave]

So Far

ROUND 1
# TEAM PLAYER POS SCHOOL
1 CGY Miguel Robede DT Laval
2 OTT Cam Yeow LB Akron
3 SSK via TOR via WPG
4 SSK
5 OTT via EDM
6 HAM
7 SSK
8 BCL
9 TOR

[Cheese]

Stamps take Robede a DT #1

[calf]

Lumsden not yet taken with Hamilton now up...

[Suave]

Ham takes Lumsden

[octothorp]

Into the second round now, Calgary takes offensive linemen Godfrey Ellis with the #10.

[looooob]

cripes WPG doesn't have a pick until round 4. I'm sure that's common knowledge, but I don't follow things very closely

[looooob]

stamps have now grabbed 2 OL and 2 DL through 4 rounds