03-29-2005, 05:01 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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I honestly had no idea who he was until I read the OJ thing, and I'm still a little fuzzy.
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03-29-2005, 05:28 PM
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#2
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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I was pretty suprised to hear that he died
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03-29-2005, 08:15 PM
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#3
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Iggy-ville
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I will not shed a tear over the loss of another criminal defense lawyer. If there is an "afterlife", may he face all of his clients' victims there.
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03-29-2005, 08:21 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: 30 minutes from the Red Mile
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Oh no! Who will the celebs go to now?
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03-29-2005, 08:57 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally posted by nieuwy-89@Mar 29 2005, 08:15 PM
I will not shed a tear over the loss of another criminal defense lawyer. If there is an "afterlife", may he face all of his clients' victims there.
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Hopefully, the first two he will meet will be Ron and Nicole. the two victims he is most famous for ensuring got no justice at all.
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03-29-2005, 09:16 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Quote:
Originally posted by moon+Mar 30 2005, 03:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (moon @ Mar 30 2005, 03:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nieuwy-89@Mar 29 2005, 08:15 PM
I will not shed a tear over the loss of another criminal defense lawyer. If there is an "afterlife", may he face all of his clients' victims there.
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Hopefully, the first two he will meet will be Ron and Nicole. the two victims he is most famous for ensuring got no justice at all. [/b][/quote]
Johnnie Cochran was doing his job and doing it well....giving his client the best defense possible. A defense which the constitution of the United States guarantees every citizen. The LA DA's office, unfortunately for the victims, didn't do their job very well. They represent the victims, maybe Marcia Clark and Chris Dardon will run into Ron and Nicole.
Johnnie Cochran is the last person that should be blamed for the lack of justice in that case.
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03-29-2005, 09:37 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan@Mar 29 2005, 10:16 PM
Johnnie Cochran was doing his job and doing it well....giving his client the best defense possible. A defense which the constitution of the United States guarantees every citizen.
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Yup. He did a great job when he had do, and he did exactly what his clients paid him to do. I am not a big fan of some defense lawyers, but they are needed.
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03-29-2005, 10:31 PM
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#8
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary
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I only remembered who he was because of south park.
'Uh oh, the wookie defense.'
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03-29-2005, 10:40 PM
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Retired
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Mark Ferman messed up that case, they should have never let OJ put on the bloody glove.
That was an open and shut case, they had DNA, motive, everything they needed to get a conviction.
Now as for Cochran... It takes balls to be a criminal defense lawyer, they have a tough job, make a ton of cash and take a lot of flack.
But dispite that... I think with all that evidence Cocharn should have just walked away and had nothing to do with this case.. I'd hope more criminal lawyers (like Matlock), have some morals they can live their life by and accept cases.
I know that what I say is a very thin line... but seriously I bet Cocharn thinks OJ really was guilty and he just had to expose some red herrings to make him walk.
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03-29-2005, 10:44 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally posted by CaramonLS@Mar 29 2005, 10:40 PM
Mark Ferman messed up that case, they should have never let OJ put on the bloody glove.
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Mark Furman was just the detective at the scene. I beleive it was Marcia Clark and Christopher Dardin that decided to put the old dry bloody (shrunken) glove on OJs hands while he was wearing a thin glove!!!
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03-29-2005, 10:57 PM
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Retired
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Originally posted by albertGQ+Mar 30 2005, 05:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (albertGQ @ Mar 30 2005, 05:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-CaramonLS@Mar 29 2005, 10:40 PM
Mark Ferman messed up that case, they should have never let OJ put on the bloody glove.
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Mark Furman was just the detective at the scene. I beleive it was Marcia Clark and Christopher Dardin that decided to put the old dry bloody (shrunken) glove on OJs hands while he was wearing a thin glove!!! [/b][/quote]
You do remember his testimony where he was exposed as a racist... lieing on the stand, etc etc. Doesn't look good when the lead detective does that.
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03-29-2005, 11:13 PM
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Norm!
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Marcia Clark was against using the gloves but Christopher Dardin pushed her on it.
The fact is that every criminal has the right to a strong defense, and the prosecuting team including the forensic investigator who allowed the blood samples to be tainted are to be blamed.
People tend to remember Cochran for his defense of OJ Simpson, but people tend to forget that he was a driving force for civil rights.
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03-29-2005, 11:28 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan+Mar 29 2005, 09:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Displaced Flames fan @ Mar 29 2005, 09:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by moon@Mar 30 2005, 03:57 AM
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@Mar 29 2005, 08:15 PM
I will not shed a tear over the loss of another criminal defense lawyer. If there is an "afterlife", may he face all of his clients' victims there.
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Hopefully, the first two he will meet will be Ron and Nicole. the two victims he is most famous for ensuring got no justice at all.
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Johnnie Cochran was doing his job and doing it well....giving his client the best defense possible. A defense which the constitution of the United States guarantees every citizen. The LA DA's office, unfortunately for the victims, didn't do their job very well. They represent the victims, maybe Marcia Clark and Chris Dardon will run into Ron and Nicole.
Johnnie Cochran is the last person that should be blamed for the lack of justice in that case. [/b][/quote]
I didn't like some of the race tactics he used in the trial and moreso the media.
I understand the role of defense attorney's but he still was vital in getting a double murderer go free.
He is not the only person I blame for this, maybe not even the person I blame most, but I still do blame him somewhat for it.
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03-30-2005, 09:17 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally posted by CaramonLS+Mar 29 2005, 10:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CaramonLS @ Mar 29 2005, 10:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by albertGQ@Mar 30 2005, 05:44 AM
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@Mar 29 2005, 10:40 PM
Mark Ferman messed up that case, they should have never let OJ put on the bloody glove.
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Mark Furman was just the detective at the scene. I beleive it was Marcia Clark and Christopher Dardin that decided to put the old dry bloody (shrunken) glove on OJs hands while he was wearing a thin glove!!!
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You do remember his testimony where he was exposed as a racist... lieing on the stand, etc etc. Doesn't look good when the lead detective does that. [/b][/quote]
I totally remember that. Cochrane used the race card even though he promised Robert Shapairo he wouldn't when he took over the lead attorny role from Shapairo. But you said it was Furman's idea for OJ to wear the glove when it fact it was the DA
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03-30-2005, 12:04 PM
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Retired
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Ug yeah typo there, I ment that those (Furhman) and (Bloody glove), 2 incidents that ruined it for the prosecution.
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03-30-2005, 12:32 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Yeah the prosecution really screwed up that OJ thing, but it was Stan the Caddy who wanted Sue Ellen Mishke to try on the bra.
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03-30-2005, 12:40 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Mar 30 2005, 12:32 PM
Yeah the prosecution really screwed up that OJ thing, but it was Stan the Caddy who wanted Sue Ellen Mishke to try on the bra.
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The bra should never be put on over a sweater. Its supposed to be put on naked skin.............Like a glove!!!
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03-30-2005, 12:41 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Djibouti
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Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Mar 30 2005, 11:32 AM
Yeah the prosecution really screwed up that OJ thing, but it was Stan the Caddy who wanted Sue Ellen Mishke to try on the bra.
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That was a civil case, not a criminal prosecution.
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03-30-2005, 01:57 PM
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#19
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: insider trading in WTC 7
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the oj case was not won and lost by the lawyers.
the jury, absolutely undoubtedly, knew that a guilty verdict would have meant riots and blood in the streets.
this verdict was piped into every classroom, do the math.
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