Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community
Old 03-29-2005, 05:01 PM   #1
red '00
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Exp:
Default

I honestly had no idea who he was until I read the OJ thing, and I'm still a little fuzzy.
red '00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2005, 05:28 PM   #2
snappyk
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

I was pretty suprised to hear that he died
__________________
Hey, those are some good cheese fires.
snappyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2005, 08:15 PM   #3
nieuwy-89
First Line Centre
 
nieuwy-89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Iggy-ville
Exp:
Default

I will not shed a tear over the loss of another criminal defense lawyer. If there is an "afterlife", may he face all of his clients' victims there.
nieuwy-89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2005, 08:21 PM   #4
Incinerator
Franchise Player
 
Incinerator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: 30 minutes from the Red Mile
Exp:
Default

Oh no! Who will the celebs go to now?
Incinerator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2005, 08:57 PM   #5
moon
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by nieuwy-89@Mar 29 2005, 08:15 PM
I will not shed a tear over the loss of another criminal defense lawyer. If there is an "afterlife", may he face all of his clients' victims there.
Hopefully, the first two he will meet will be Ron and Nicole. the two victims he is most famous for ensuring got no justice at all.
moon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2005, 09:16 PM   #6
Displaced Flames fan
Franchise Player
 
Displaced Flames fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by moon+Mar 30 2005, 03:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (moon @ Mar 30 2005, 03:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nieuwy-89@Mar 29 2005, 08:15 PM
I will not shed a tear over the loss of another criminal defense lawyer. If there is an "afterlife", may he face all of his clients' victims there.
Hopefully, the first two he will meet will be Ron and Nicole. the two victims he is most famous for ensuring got no justice at all. [/b][/quote]
Johnnie Cochran was doing his job and doing it well....giving his client the best defense possible. A defense which the constitution of the United States guarantees every citizen. The LA DA's office, unfortunately for the victims, didn't do their job very well. They represent the victims, maybe Marcia Clark and Chris Dardon will run into Ron and Nicole.

Johnnie Cochran is the last person that should be blamed for the lack of justice in that case.
__________________
I am in love with Montana. For other states I have admiration, respect, recognition, even some affection, but with Montana it is love." - John Steinbeck
Displaced Flames fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2005, 09:37 PM   #7
metallicat
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan@Mar 29 2005, 10:16 PM
Johnnie Cochran was doing his job and doing it well....giving his client the best defense possible. A defense which the constitution of the United States guarantees every citizen.
Yup. He did a great job when he had do, and he did exactly what his clients paid him to do. I am not a big fan of some defense lawyers, but they are needed.
__________________
But living an honest life - for that you need the truth. That's the other thing I learned that day, that the truth, however shocking or uncomfortable, leads to liberation and dignity. -Ricky Gervais
metallicat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2005, 10:31 PM   #8
Super-Rye
First Line Centre
 
Super-Rye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

I only remembered who he was because of south park.

'Uh oh, the wookie defense.'
Super-Rye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2005, 10:40 PM   #9
CaramonLS
Retired
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Exp:
Default

Mark Ferman messed up that case, they should have never let OJ put on the bloody glove.

That was an open and shut case, they had DNA, motive, everything they needed to get a conviction.

Now as for Cochran... It takes balls to be a criminal defense lawyer, they have a tough job, make a ton of cash and take a lot of flack.

But dispite that... I think with all that evidence Cocharn should have just walked away and had nothing to do with this case.. I'd hope more criminal lawyers (like Matlock), have some morals they can live their life by and accept cases.

I know that what I say is a very thin line... but seriously I bet Cocharn thinks OJ really was guilty and he just had to expose some red herrings to make him walk.
CaramonLS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2005, 10:44 PM   #10
albertGQ
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by CaramonLS@Mar 29 2005, 10:40 PM
Mark Ferman messed up that case, they should have never let OJ put on the bloody glove.
Mark Furman was just the detective at the scene. I beleive it was Marcia Clark and Christopher Dardin that decided to put the old dry bloody (shrunken) glove on OJs hands while he was wearing a thin glove!!!
albertGQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2005, 10:57 PM   #11
CaramonLS
Retired
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by albertGQ+Mar 30 2005, 05:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (albertGQ @ Mar 30 2005, 05:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-CaramonLS@Mar 29 2005, 10:40 PM
Mark Ferman messed up that case, they should have never let OJ put on the bloody glove.
Mark Furman was just the detective at the scene. I beleive it was Marcia Clark and Christopher Dardin that decided to put the old dry bloody (shrunken) glove on OJs hands while he was wearing a thin glove!!! [/b][/quote]
You do remember his testimony where he was exposed as a racist... lieing on the stand, etc etc. Doesn't look good when the lead detective does that.
CaramonLS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2005, 11:13 PM   #12
CaptainCrunch
Norm!
 
CaptainCrunch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Exp:
Default

Marcia Clark was against using the gloves but Christopher Dardin pushed her on it.

The fact is that every criminal has the right to a strong defense, and the prosecuting team including the forensic investigator who allowed the blood samples to be tainted are to be blamed.

People tend to remember Cochran for his defense of OJ Simpson, but people tend to forget that he was a driving force for civil rights.
__________________
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;

Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
CaptainCrunch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2005, 11:28 PM   #13
moon
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan+Mar 29 2005, 09:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Displaced Flames fan @ Mar 29 2005, 09:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:
Originally posted by moon@Mar 30 2005, 03:57 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-nieuwy-89
Quote:
@Mar 29 2005, 08:15 PM
I will not shed a tear over the loss of another criminal defense lawyer. If there is an "afterlife", may he face all of his clients' victims there.

Hopefully, the first two he will meet will be Ron and Nicole. the two victims he is most famous for ensuring got no justice at all.
Johnnie Cochran was doing his job and doing it well....giving his client the best defense possible. A defense which the constitution of the United States guarantees every citizen. The LA DA's office, unfortunately for the victims, didn't do their job very well. They represent the victims, maybe Marcia Clark and Chris Dardon will run into Ron and Nicole.

Johnnie Cochran is the last person that should be blamed for the lack of justice in that case. [/b][/quote]
I didn't like some of the race tactics he used in the trial and moreso the media.

I understand the role of defense attorney's but he still was vital in getting a double murderer go free.

He is not the only person I blame for this, maybe not even the person I blame most, but I still do blame him somewhat for it.
moon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2005, 09:17 AM   #14
albertGQ
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by CaramonLS+Mar 29 2005, 10:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CaramonLS @ Mar 29 2005, 10:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:
Originally posted by albertGQ@Mar 30 2005, 05:44 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-CaramonLS
Quote:
@Mar 29 2005, 10:40 PM
Mark Ferman messed up that case, they should have never let OJ put on the bloody glove.

Mark Furman was just the detective at the scene. I beleive it was Marcia Clark and Christopher Dardin that decided to put the old dry bloody (shrunken) glove on OJs hands while he was wearing a thin glove!!!
You do remember his testimony where he was exposed as a racist... lieing on the stand, etc etc. Doesn't look good when the lead detective does that. [/b][/quote]
I totally remember that. Cochrane used the race card even though he promised Robert Shapairo he wouldn't when he took over the lead attorny role from Shapairo. But you said it was Furman's idea for OJ to wear the glove when it fact it was the DA
albertGQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2005, 12:04 PM   #15
CaramonLS
Retired
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Exp:
Default

Ug yeah typo there, I ment that those (Furhman) and (Bloody glove), 2 incidents that ruined it for the prosecution.
CaramonLS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2005, 12:32 PM   #16
RougeUnderoos
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
Exp:
Default

Yeah the prosecution really screwed up that OJ thing, but it was Stan the Caddy who wanted Sue Ellen Mishke to try on the bra.
__________________

RougeUnderoos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2005, 12:40 PM   #17
albertGQ
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Mar 30 2005, 12:32 PM
Yeah the prosecution really screwed up that OJ thing, but it was Stan the Caddy who wanted Sue Ellen Mishke to try on the bra.
The bra should never be put on over a sweater. Its supposed to be put on naked skin.............Like a glove!!!
albertGQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2005, 12:41 PM   #18
Mike F
Franchise Player
 
Mike F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Djibouti
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Mar 30 2005, 11:32 AM
Yeah the prosecution really screwed up that OJ thing, but it was Stan the Caddy who wanted Sue Ellen Mishke to try on the bra.
That was a civil case, not a criminal prosecution.
Mike F is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2005, 01:57 PM   #19
Looger
Lifetime Suspension
 
Looger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: insider trading in WTC 7
Exp:
Default

the oj case was not won and lost by the lawyers.

the jury, absolutely undoubtedly, knew that a guilty verdict would have meant riots and blood in the streets.

this verdict was piped into every classroom, do the math.
Looger is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:08 AM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy