Guergis: No One Has Told Me What the Allegations Are

[RedHot25]

Helena Guergis broke her silence Monday, telling the CBC in an exclusive interview that a month after her highly publicized ouster from the Conservative caucus she still doesn't know anything about the "serious allegations" that prompted her dismissal.

"I don't even know what the allegations are," the former junior cabinet minister said in an interview with Peter Mansbridge, the CBC's chief correspondent. "Just put it on the table. Let me see it. Let me defend myself. Give me the opportunity to stand up for myself."

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The former minister for the status of women accuses the Conservative Party of treating her unfairly.

"I feel as though they've thrown the rule books out the window, that they're not respecting due process at all. I find it very undemocratic.

"I'm hurt by the Prime Minister. I am hurt because I did consider him to be a friend as well, so I find that very hard to deal with."

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"I feel as though I've gone through a trial, I have been convicted and now I'm been sentenced. And I still don't know what it is I'm supposed to have done."

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/...#ixzz0nclucHMz

[transplant99]

"I don't even know what the allegations are,"

Sure you don't. That's why you have denied....

allegations she participated in a dinner with Toronto businessman Nazim Gillani that involved escorts and cocaine, calling it "absolutely false."

She called accusations the couple have offshore accounts "laughable" and denies her husband ever illegally lobbied the government.

Guergis also denies Jaffer ever used her office for business purposes

And then this as well...

Mansbridge also questioned Guergis about a letter she wrote last September to local officials in her Ontario riding, touting a division of a waste management firm that the company co-founded by her husband had pitched to the federal government as a "shovel-ready" project to be considered for green fund money.
"Now as I look at it, I wish I hadn't written the letter," she said.

I mean really Ms. Guergis, you seriously dont know what the allegations are, yet you have already defended yourself from them?

How more transparent can she be?

[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I mean really Ms. Guergis, you seriously dont know what the allegations are, yet you have already defended yourself from them?

How more transparent can she be?

Could very well be; and you have to take everything regarding her with a grain of salt. Although it is interesting that apparently:

The MP for the Ontario riding of Simcoe-Grey, who now sits as an Independent Conservative, says both she and her lawyer have since contacted the RCMP multiple times, offering to assist in any way. The RCMP have yet to contact her, she says.

I would assume it is one and/or all of what she has referenced, but at the same time maybe she is just trying to refute anything and everything that she has heard in the press in case that is it.

[Huntingwhale]

My favorite english word: Caucus

[mikey_the_redneck]

It's pretty simple lady.

Your husband is a corrupt bag and you need to be fired to save face.

[Caged Great]

I watched her interview on the national, and my impression was that she is one of two things.

1.) the biggest most incompetent person I've ever seen, so much so that you wonder if she's actually physically capable of dressing herself she's that dumb.

2.) She's lying and knew everything that was going down but is trying to play the nieve dumb blond in hopes that she can get a pass like that guy from quebec with the biker girlfriend and the documents (his name slips my mind at the moment).

[Slava]

I watched the interview and found it quite entertaining. Clearly there was more to the story than what she was letting on though. My favorite attempt to dodge things was the "I have no idea about the business my husband does" idea which is obviously a half truth if she wrote a letter as the MP to endorse said business!

[Jetsfan]

[RedHot25]

Handling of Guergis catastrophic: Ignatieff


Prime Minister Stephen Harper's handing of the Helena Guergis affair has been "a kind of slow, rolling catastrophe for the government," says Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff.


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Harper's handling of the issue raises questions about his judgment, to the point where "even the Conservative Party might be writhing at what's going on," said Ignatieff.

"From the moment of Mr. Jaffer's arrest, warning bells should have sounded both about his business activities, about her relation to those business activities, and the when she kept making misstep after misstep, I think the prime minister should have acted, a long time ago," he said.

"And now we're in the ridiculous situation where nobody knows what these serious allegations are, not even Helena Guergis, and every Canadian thinks that's crazy."

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/...#ixzz0neLKyYdY

[The Goon]

From the National interview, the allegations are that her hair is out of control.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by RedHot25

Handling of Guergis catastrophic: Ignatieff


Prime Minister Stephen Harper's handing of the Helena Guergis affair has been "a kind of slow, rolling catastrophe for the government," says Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff.


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Harper's handling of the issue raises questions about his judgment, to the point where "even the Conservative Party might be writhing at what's going on," said Ignatieff.

"From the moment of Mr. Jaffer's arrest, warning bells should have sounded both about his business activities, about her relation to those business activities, and the when she kept making misstep after misstep, I think the prime minister should have acted, a long time ago," he said.

"And now we're in the ridiculous situation where nobody knows what these serious allegations are, not even Helena Guergis, and every Canadian thinks that's crazy."

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/...#ixzz0neLKyYdY

Really . . . Lets see, he pretty well instantly called the RCMP to investigate, removed her from cabinet, basically tossed her from the government. There's already a Parlimentary investigation going on.

Hows this any kind of slow rolling disaster?

Did Ignatief want Harper in on the interrogations, maybe hit her with a cattleprod?

There was no denial of wrong doing by the government, or the usual support of the MP, or the government attempting to supress evidence?

Meanwhile on the Liberal side, one of their MP's gets caught in a similar situation of lobbying for a lawfirm on transportation issues while serving in on a transportation committee and nothing has been said by the Liberal party?

Ah screw it, they're all corrupt.

[Resolute 14]

Ignatieff's opinion on the matter is utterly worthless. He's going to attempt to cast anything the Conservatives do in a negative light as part of standard politics. If they walk, he'll say they should have run. If they run, he'll say they should have walked.

[Finny61]

It'd be fun to just to use reverse psychology and mind games with Harper, Mister Eyebrows should just applaud everything Harper has done in this case so far. Just for a laugh.

[redforever]

Apparently since Ignatieff's accusation that this is a huge catastrophe, his ratings have gone down 5%.....

[John Doe]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Really . . . Lets see, he pretty well instantly called the RCMP to investigate, removed her from cabinet, basically tossed her from the government. There's already a Parlimentary investigation going on.

Hows this any kind of slow rolling disaster?

Did Ignatief want Harper in on the interrogations, maybe hit her with a cattleprod?

There was no denial of wrong doing by the government, or the usual support of the MP, or the government attempting to supress evidence?

I think the problem is that Haper boots Guergis out of caucus and won't let her run again for the Conservatives supposedly because of some "serious misdoings", but he won't tell anyone else what she did (including Guregis according to her). Meanwhile, he has an MP being named in a lawsuit for mortgage fraud (Shory) who is allowed to remain in caucus.

You and I both know that Guergis was kicked out of the party because she was becoming a detriment rather than an asset to the Conservatives. He should have just booted her out before when he had a better reason. Now it looks like he might have made up something just to get rid of her. That doesn't look good on him.

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Meanwhile on the Liberal side, one of their MP's gets caught in a similar situation of lobbying for a lawfirm on transportation issues while serving in on a transportation committee and nothing has been said by the Liberal party?

Actually, the situations are quite different. It looks like Jaffer was caught (unsuccessfully) trying to lobby the government while not registering as a lobbyist, while Lee was advertised as a lobbyist despite (so far) there not being any indication that he even tried to lobby anyone. So while both Lee and Jaffer both look bad, only one of them actually did anything wrong (as far as we know).

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Ah screw it, they're all corrupt.

On this, sir, I can agree!

[EddyBeers]

Originally Posted by John Doe

I think the problem is that Haper boots Guergis out of caucus and won't let her run again for the Conservatives supposedly because of some "serious misdoings", but he won't tell anyone else what she did (including Guregis according to her). Meanwhile, he has an MP being named in a lawsuit for mortgage fraud (Shory) who is allowed to remain in caucus.

Shory was never named in a lawsuit for mortgage fraud.

[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by EddyBeers

Shory was never named in a lawsuit for mortgage fraud.

I thought he was via BMO? There was a big story about it?

[Slava]

Originally Posted by EddyBeers

Shory was never named in a lawsuit for mortgage fraud.

Unless there are some legal semantics here he was listed in the statement of claim...

[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by Slava

Unless there are some legal semantics here he was listed in the statement of claim...

Yeah, I thought so too:

The Bank of Montreal is accusing Calgary Conservative MP Devinder Shory of having ties to what is believed to be Canada's largest mortgage fraud.

The bank has filed a lawsuit against hundreds of Albertans, including Shory. Civil court documents filed in the lawsuit, and obtained exclusively by CBC News, allege Shory, a lawyer, executed legal transactions that misrepresented the true mortgage owner of at least five Calgary properties.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...#ixzz0ng147Gc8

[EddyBeers]

Originally Posted by RedHot25

I thought he was via BMO? There was a big story about it?

He is accused of negligence, he has nothing to do with the alleged fraud. It is too bad that journalists cannot take the time to understand the difference between the two. It would be similar to saying that someone who gave a murderer refuge after a murder was committed actually committed the murder. I think that most people would understand that someone who gave someone a place to stay a day after they committed a murder and had no idea that the murder took place did not actually commit the murder.