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Old 07-16-2009, 12:42 PM   #1
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Edit: wooops can you please to move to Tech Talk.



So my brother tried downloading Bruno off the internet after repeated warnings of me telling him not to download illegal movies off the internet. It's not that i care if he breaks the law or not its my expensive computer im worried about.

Now i have a virus and all my anti-virus software aint doing squat all.

I really think the movie producers pay people to infect the people's computers with viruses who try to download illegal movies.

I was actually warned by a professor at Mount Royal about viruses in illegal movie downloads and have tried passing it on to people that use my computer...it obviously didn't work.

Does anyone know of a virus scanner which is really good?



I use Avast anti-virus btw.
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Old 07-16-2009, 12:55 PM   #2
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How do you know you have a virus?

No scanner can catch a virus it doesn't know about (well, some can, but you also get LOTS of false reports which makes their benefit questionable)
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:04 PM   #3
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How do you know you have a virus?

No scanner can catch a virus it doesn't know about (well, some can, but you also get LOTS of false reports which makes their benefit questionable)
Because Avast tells me i do but when it tries to fix it nothing happens and i've noticed my computer getting slower.

Also i get this screen which tells me it's fixing the virus but i keep closing it because to me it seems like its actually loading something into my computer.
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What virus does it say you have?

You may want to boot into safe mode with networking and try scanning from there.

You can also try http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ which is a free online scanner.
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:11 PM   #5
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What virus does it say you have?

You may want to boot into safe mode with networking and try scanning from there.

You can also try http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ which is a free online scanner.
I dont remember the name but next time the screen comes up ill post it.

It says its in windows 32 and a trojan.
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Would anyone recommend Norton anti-virus? I've heard It's a crap virus detector and deleted it when i got my computer about 4 years ago and no problems till now.
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Would anyone recommend Norton anti-virus? I've heard It's a crap virus detector and deleted it when i got my computer about 4 years ago and no problems till now.
The newer version of Norton has been rebuilt from the ground up and I have heard on tech forums that it is now acceptable. NOD32 is well regarded as is Kaspursky and a few others.

But I use Avast and have never had an issue with it.
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You got the Hiv?!??
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I have used NOD32 for the past few years and I've been VERY impressed with it... and I have also used Kapersky without problems..
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The newer version of Norton has been rebuilt from the ground up and I have heard on tech forums that it is now acceptable. NOD32 is well regarded as is Kaspursky and a few others.

But I use Avast and have never had an issue with it.
Thanks. Also, i tried that online scan and it says no potential threats were found. I'm re-scanning with Avast to make sure.
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I back up my comp once in a while and re-format it when this stuff happens. I just don't trust most anti-virus software to do the job correctly.
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Another vote for Nod32, I've been using it for years ever since I got sick of Norton being a bloated pile of crap.
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Another vote for Nod32, I've been using it for years ever since I got sick of Norton being a bloated pile of crap.
I've used both, and the latest version of Norton AV is not bad, I would put it on par probably with Nod32 in general use.

Nod32 has its fair share of detractors too - I've heard horror stories, especially with the corporate version, of Nod saying everything is hunky dory, but there are infections active and running on the same machine (which would put it on par with Norton, ironically)

I'm kinda suprised people are getting infected from movies though - are people getting hit with buffer overrun exploits in the actual movies, or are they getting tricked into running executables inside rar archives of the movies?

I'm on a mac and transcode to h.264 as a matter of course (so if there's an exploit in an xvid that targets a specific player, I'm never going to see it), so I've never really investigated the issue. I wonder if it even is an issue, or if the RIAA just likes people to believe movie files can mess up their machines
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I always wondered why this didn't happen more often. If I worked at a big movie studio I'd just flood the internets with copies of my movie that were either infected or messed up in some way.
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Just use Malwarebytes and Combofix

And no, they don't put viruses into movie files, it comes from people who upload them with movies in order to get people to download and run them to get infected so they can steal their personal information or increase their zombie computer network. If you download any movie, make sure it isn't an executable file before you run it or it isn't hidden as a fake compression archive.
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I always wondered why this didn't happen more often. If I worked at a big movie studio I'd just flood the internets with copies of my movie that were either infected or messed up in some way.
The PR for a studio if it ever leaked that this was being done intentionally would be terrible. Sure downloading movies is wrong, but for a multi-national corporation to actively be distributing viruses to the public would not go over well.
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It is pretty tricky to infect a video file. Video files aren't executable so you actually need to use a vulnerability in the program (or maybe codec) that is displaying the movie. And since there are multiple versions of possibilities there, the chance of getting the right version of the right codec on the right player usually makes it not worth the virus writer's bother.

If it did come from the movie then it more than likely can from the site where the movie came from or a social engineering exploit.
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The PR for a studio if it ever leaked that this was being done intentionally would be terrible. Sure downloading movies is wrong, but for a multi-national corporation to actively be distributing viruses to the public would not go over well.
Sony took it on the chin but I'd imagine most people have forgotten about that now.
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The other consideration is where ever a torrent is downloaded, a majority of them have comments, and thanks, so trusted users are usually reliable in determining which is real and which is fake. There is a dedicated company based in the use with the sole purpose of distributing broken media files.
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Update:

Just ran Ad-Aware and it said it found malicious objects and fixed it so i hope that was the problem.
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