UN anti-blasphemy measures have sinister goals, observers say

[Thor]

Can't believe the UN has nearly reached rock bottom.

UNITED NATIONS - Islamic countries Monday won United Nations backing for an anti-blasphemy measure Canada and other Western critics say risks being used to limit freedom of speech.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/wo...e-6ff6e78c78d5

Canada's response, thankfully good:

"Canada rejects the basic premise that religions have rights; human rights belong to human beings," said Catherine Loubier, spokeswoman for Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon.

"The focus (here) should not be on protecting religions, but rather on protecting the rights of the adherents of religions, including of people belonging to religious minorities, or people who may choose to change their religion, or not to practice religion at all."

Lou Dobbs and Christopher Hitchen's on this ridiculous UN resolution:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-qdC5zYd4 10:48min

[GGG]

I think freedome of speech would be worth withdrawing from the United Nations over. The protection of peoples right to free speech is probably the most important right.

All a government has to do is claim to be gods and then pass a law against that defaming god is punishable by death and the government can under UN sanction kill any one in oppisition.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by GGG

I think freedome of speech would be worth withdrawing from the United Nations over. The protection of peoples right to free speech is probably the most important right.

All a government has to do is claim to be gods and then pass a law against that defaming god is punishable by death and the government can under UN sanction kill any one in oppisition.

Just think, XENU.NET would be criminal. ahahahahaha.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Thor

Just think, XENU.NET would be criminal. ahahahahaha.

Unless the scientologists are in charge. Then everybut Xenu.net is illegal

[Thor]

Oh for the Canadians, you can email the Canadian Ambassador to the UN, John McNee,

http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca...onu/index.aspx

[Thor]

Yay Canada:

http://www.unwatch.org/c.bdKKISNqEmG....aspx?aid=8845

"Blame Canada?" No. Thank Canada -- for its principled votes at the U.N. to resist the political agenda of bigots and tyrants. The U.N. Human Rights Council is wholly owned and operated by Islamic states that legitimize Hamas and Hezbollah terrorism, supported by an automatic majority from China, Cuba, and other repressive regimes. Canada is the only country that has been willing to stand up and resist Orwellian resolutions that are destroying the true principles of human rights.

[GGG]

As much as we can't get free speech right here at home we seem to do a good job of campaigning for it in the UN

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by GGG

As much as we can't get free speech right here at home we seem to do a good job of campaigning for it in the UN

Oh, did Canada ban all White Supremacist groups?

Finally.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by GGG

I think freedome of speech would be worth withdrawing from the United Nations over. The protection of peoples right to free speech is probably the most important right.

All a government has to do is claim to be gods and then pass a law against that defaming god is punishable by death and the government can under UN sanction kill any one in oppisition.

No need to withdraw from the UN. We just do what every other UN member does when someone passes a resolution they don't like: ignore it.

[Thor]

The vote was on 11/24/08 and went 85 yes, 50 no, 42 abstain:

http://www.eyeontheun.org/assets/att...ents/DR_VR.pdf

A list of the 'yes' votes, truly a group of freedom loving nations.

Afghanistan
Algeria
Antigua-Barbuda
Azerbaijan
Bahamas
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belarus
Bhutan
Bolivia
Bosnia/Herzegovina
Brunei
Cambodia
Chad
China
Comoros
Congo
Cote D'Ivoire
Cuba
North Korea
Djibouti
Dominica
Egypt
El Salvador
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Fiji
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Guyana
Honduras
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Jamaica
Jordan
Kazhakstan
Kuwait
Kyrgystan
Lao PDR
Lebanon
Lesotho
Liberia
Libyan AJ
Malaysia
Maldives
Mali
Mauritania
Mauritius
Morocco
Mozambique
Myanmar
Nicaragua
Niger
Nigeria
Oman
Pakistan
Philippines
Qatar
Russian Fed
St Vincent
Saudi Arabia
Senegal
Sierra Leone
Singapore
South Africa
Sri Lanka
Sudan
Suriname
Swaziland
Syria
Tajikistan
Thailand
Togo
Tunisia
Turkey
Turkmenistan
United Arab Emirates
Uzbekistan
Venezuela
Vietnam
Yemen
Zimbabwe

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by Thor

Yay Canada:

http://www.unwatch.org/c.bdKKISNqEmG....aspx?aid=8845

Thank you for that.

We are one of the few countries who dont need the crack supplied by the OPEC drug dealers, hence the reason we can be the voice of opposition on these things while countries like France, US, Germany have to take a more middle of the road approach IMO.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by Thor

Yay Canada:

http://www.unwatch.org/c.bdKKISNqEmG....aspx?aid=8845

And yet the Conservative government is doing everything in its power to curtail free speech, at least speech that criticizes Israel.

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?opti...6356&Itemid=86

http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/...tml?id=1329509

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

And yet the Conservative government is doing everything in its power to curtail free speech, at least speech that criticizes Israel.

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?opti...6356&Itemid=86

http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/...tml?id=1329509

What does that have to do with Canadian government? I just see a bunch of CAF blathering...

[peter12]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

And yet the Conservative government is doing everything in its power to curtail free speech, at least speech that criticizes Israel.

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?opti...6356&Itemid=86

http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/...tml?id=1329509

Criticizing Israel is fine. In fact, even though alot of dummies on the left don't realize it, there is a huge critical faction INSIDE Israel that is free to publish anything criticizing the government.

The problem is when idiots from organizations like C.U.P.E. put forward explicitly anti-Israeli agendas that heap inordinate amounts of blame upon the Israeli state and institute collective punishment against an entire people.

That's antisemitism. Never mind that you have to have the intelligence of a frog to actually go for this kind of speech, it pretty much borders on hate-fuelled violence when put into action.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by peter12

The problem is when idiots from organizations like C.U.P.E. put forward explicitly anti-Israeli agendas that heap inordinate amounts of blame upon the Israeli state and institute collective punishment against an entire people.

That's antisemitism. Never mind that you have to have the intelligence of a frog to actually go for this kind of speech, it pretty much borders on hate-fuelled violence when put into action.

I find it ironic that you accuse ANYONE of instituting collective punishment against Israel. Collective punishment is Israel's stock in trade.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

I find it ironic that you accuse ANYONE of instituting collective punishment against Israel. Collective punishment is Israel's stock in trade.

What do you mean by "Israel?"

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

I find it ironic that you accuse ANYONE of instituting collective punishment against Israel. Collective punishment is Israel's stock in trade.

You must be one of the CUPE left-wing idiots....

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by peter12

What do you mean by "Israel?"

What do you mean by "mean"?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

What do you mean by "mean"?

I mean that I absolutely hate it when people refer collectively as national entities as if they somehow characterize an entire group of people and then use that as justification for statements which have more basis in prejudice, then reality.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by peter12

I mean that I absolutely hate it when people refer collectively as national entities as if they somehow characterize an entire group of people and then use that as justification for statements which have more basis in prejudice, then reality.

Please don't be so obtuse. Obviously when I write Israel, I mean the policies of the democratically elected Israeli government.

And save the old "basis in prejudice' line that defenders of Israeli policy trot out anytime the actions of the Israeli government or military are criticized.

The situation in Gaza and what has been done to average Palestinians living there speaks volumes. To suggest Israeli policy is wrong is hardly 'prejudice'.