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Old 11-04-2004, 09:53 AM   #2
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thank god diddly od.

It never amazes me how some people don't think of him as a terrorist.
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Old 11-04-2004, 09:59 AM   #3
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Old 11-04-2004, 10:14 AM   #4
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and maybe he isn't dead......

WTF????

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Old 11-04-2004, 10:24 AM   #5
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Nothing like wishing death on another human being to perk one up in the morning. Better than coffee... or so I hear.
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Old 11-04-2004, 11:11 AM   #6
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Originally posted by Agamemnon@Nov 4 2004, 05:24 PM
Nothing like wishing death on another human being to perk one up in the morning. Better than coffee... or so I hear.
We're talking about someone who would smile in the morning after learning the young people he encouraged to strap bombs to their bellies had successfully blown up people sipping coffee in restaurants.

No sympathy for him. Dying of old age is an amazing ending for him. Its already the ex-Arafat era.

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Old 11-04-2004, 11:21 AM   #7
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Where do you guys see that he is dead?
CNN reports that he isn't

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/04/...alth/index.html
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Old 11-04-2004, 11:22 AM   #8
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Nothing like wishing death on another human being to perk one up in the morning. Better than coffee... or so I hear.
IMO, he isn't human.

And the hospital is still adamantly saying that he's unfortunately still alive.

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Old 11-04-2004, 12:00 PM   #9
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Reminds me of the "Bring out your dead" scene in Monty Python in Search Of The Holy Grail

"I'm not dead yet!!!"

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Old 11-04-2004, 12:06 PM   #10
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Meanwhile, the Israeli military has been placed on high alert and Palestinian security forces are reviewing their plans to keep Palestinian territories calm in the event of Arafat's death.

I do not like the sounds of that paragraph. I don't really know intricate details about the entire situation there. Does the PLO have enough infrastructure to fill the vacuum if he dies? Would any Palestinian violence be more 'in his name' then anything? Would Israel take the opportunity to go in a kick some butt?
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:08 PM   #11
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Originally posted by Cowperson+Nov 4 2004, 06:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cowperson @ Nov 4 2004, 06:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Agamemnon@Nov 4 2004, 05:24 PM
Nothing like wishing death on another human being to perk one up in the morning. Better than coffee... or so I hear.
We're talking about someone who would smile in the morning after learning the young people he encouraged to strap bombs to their bellies had successfully blown up people sipping coffee in restaurants.

No sympathy for him. Dying of old age is an amazing ending for him. Its already the ex-Arafat era.

Cowperson[/b][/quote]
I suppose.

I've got a hard time taking a look at my life and seeing all the good I'm doing that justifies me looking down on others. Sure there are people out there that do evil, and many that do good. Who am I to pass moral judgement on sh*t I know almost nothing about? I've spent 5 years at University minoring in Middle Eastern politics, and I can tell you that the nuances to this conflict are infinite, simplicity absent. In reality, most of us know next to nothing about the realities of this, and most conflicts, because we sit reading about it at home, or have it delivered into our brains by the media. I think we'd have to sit in a war-zone, have our families killed, kill others, etc., to really get a good enough grasp of the conflict to begin passing moral judgement.

To wish death upon someone that you don't know doesn't sound right to me.

Though I suppose all the armchair judges out there know enough to convict and condemn, highly selectively, based on mainstream media, which always gets the facts right.

If you're happy he dies, that's one thing. If you wish he dies... well, I guess I consider that another.
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:30 PM   #12
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Al-Jazeera says he isn't dead.. yet anyway.

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AFP quoted a French medical source as saying on Thursday that Arafat is "brain dead" but is being kept on life support machines while in an irreversible coma.

Technically, Arafat is "not dead", the source told AFP on condition of confidentiality. But there was no hope of him leaving his vegetative state and recovering basic body functions such as breathing without assistance.
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"President Arafat does not have cardiac arrest or heart failure," Dr al-Kurdi said.

"He is still alive. He is not clinically dead. There is no brain death, but his condition is deteriorating. Because there has been no diagnosis, we don't know what's wrong with him."
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:51 PM   #13
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Here comes my politically incorrect slant on the whole Arafat thing

I hope he dies, I hope he suffers some before he dies, as a little bit of payback for the people he had a hand in killing, and the suffering he put his people through while he not only gave them no hope, no leadership, and willed young men and woman to go to thier death with a bomb strapped to his chest, while all the while making himself wealthy.

Yes I understand that the middle east problem is a complicated one, but to be perfectly frank Arafat was never part of the solution, he was like a big tumor causing problems in that region.

My biggest fear is that upon his death, all of the terrorist groups will go nuts killing and bombing in his name.

My solution, keep him alive and give him enough drugs to keep him alive but unable to speak or move, but able to feel every bit of suffering that he caused in a life time of murder and terrorism, keep him alive so he can't become some kind of martyr.

I find it facinating to see a man who is no better than a common thug is going to die of natural causes, while all of the ones that he killed or had a hand in killing never had that chance

I'm sure Allah is looking forward to meeting a mass murdering money grubbing bas**rd who was all to eager to encourage people to kill in his name.

Leave it to france to try and save him

Die slow you bas**rd
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:51 PM   #14
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Originally posted by Agamemnon+Nov 4 2004, 07:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agamemnon @ Nov 4 2004, 07:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Nothing like wishing death on another human being to perk one up in the morning.# Better than coffee... or so I hear.

We're talking about someone who would smile in the morning after learning the young people he encouraged to strap bombs to their bellies had successfully blown up people sipping coffee in restaurants.

No sympathy for him. Dying of old age is an amazing ending for him. Its already the ex-Arafat era.

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I suppose.

I've got a hard time taking a look at my life and seeing all the good I'm doing that justifies me looking down on others. Sure there are people out there that do evil, and many that do good. Who am I to pass moral judgement on sh*t I know almost nothing about? I've spent 5 years at University minoring in Middle Eastern politics, and I can tell you that the nuances to this conflict are infinite, simplicity absent. In reality, most of us know next to nothing about the realities of this, and most conflicts, because we sit reading about it at home, or have it delivered into our brains by the media. I think we'd have to sit in a war-zone, have our families killed, kill others, etc., to really get a good enough grasp of the conflict to begin passing moral judgement.

To wish death upon someone that you don't know doesn't sound right to me.

Though I suppose all the armchair judges out there know enough to convict and condemn, highly selectively, based on mainstream media, which always gets the facts right.

If you're happy he dies, that's one thing. If you wish he dies... well, I guess I consider that another. [/b][/quote]
Just to be clear then, I'm wishing he dies.

There are other barriers to peace, including those on the Israeli side, but this guy is one of them on the Palestinian side.

He's also a crook robbing his people blind, profiteering on their hardship and has an obvious motive to deter any efforts for a lasting peace for them which is probably why they continue to fight a hopeless conflict against an opponent they can't defeat and an opponent with a demonstratable track record of trading land for peace.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/07/...ain582487.shtml

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Just out of curiosity does everyone then hope the same death and suffering for Sharon?
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Originally posted by fotze+Nov 4 2004, 03:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (fotze @ Nov 4 2004, 03:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-moon@Nov 4 2004, 02:07 PM
Just out of curiosity does everyone then hope the same death and suffering for Sharon?
Yes. Lois and Bram could go too, for all I care . [/b][/quote]
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Just out of curiosity does everyone then hope the same death and suffering for Sharon?
Does he send people strapped with bombs into busy Palestinian cafes?
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No, he's got fancier toys and prefers refugee camps.
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Old 11-04-2004, 02:27 PM   #19
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No, he's got fancier toys and prefers refugee camps.
Beaten to the punch!
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Come one, let's see some links to reputable news sources where it says Arafat laughs with glee when suicide bombings happen.
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