I like's me Rock & Roll...

[North East Goon]

Especially 70's style rock and the grunge movement. I was hoping to get some ideas from our fellow posters on some new or older great bands that fit into this mold, but have fallen under the radar a little.

[troutman]

The Grandfathers of Grunge: Iggy Pop & Stooges, Neil Young & Crazy Horse, Husker Du, Pixies, Replacements

Other Grunge/Rock you may have missed: Screaming Trees, Mudhoney, Sugar, Urge Overkill, Alice in Chains

Rock styles:

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=73:20

American Underground:

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:12147

SST, was also a crucial influence, releasing records by the Minutemen, the Meat Puppets, Husker Du, Dinosaur Jr., and other key bands who pushed the outsider’s aggression of punk into new and provocative directions. The Midwest proved to be a potent breeding ground for the American underground, with Minneapolis’s boozy but heartfelt the Replacements and Chicago’s brutally loud Big Black and Naked Raygun winning sizable cult followings, while Sonic Youth and the Swans were the rulers of a dissonant East Coast enclave, Texas’s nomadic psych-noise merchants the Butthole Surfers were leaving a trail of terror across the country, and Boston’s Mission of Burma proved both powerfully influential and prescient during their short lifespan. In the mid-'80s, the initial commercial breakthrough of R.E.M. (who were tangential members of the scene despite their presence on the semi-major label I.R.S.) at once gave the American underground new visibility and put the first chinks into the armor of the close-knit community.

Grunge:

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:2679

Using the sludgy, murky sound of the Stooges and Black Sabbath as a foundation, Grunge was a hybrid of heavy metal and punk. Though the guitars were straight from early '70s metal, the aesthetic of grunge was far from metal. Both the lyrical approach and musical attack of grunge were adopted from punk, particularly the independent ideals of early '80s American hardcore. The first wave of grunge bands — Green River, Mudhoney, Soundgarden — were heavier than the second, which began with Nirvana. Nirvana was more melodic than their predecessors and they also had signature stop-start dynamics, which became a genre convention nearly as recognizable as fuzzy, distorted guitars. After Nirvana crossed over into the mainstream, grunge lost many of its independent and punk connections and became the most popular style of hard rock in the '90s.

Indie Rock:

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:2687

The general assumption is that it's virtually impossible to make indie rock's varying musical approaches compatible with mainstream tastes in the first place. There are almost as many reasons for that incompatibility as there are indie-rock bands, but following are some of the most common: the music may be too whimsical and innocent; too weird; too sensitive and melancholy; too soft and delicate; too dreamy and hypnotic; too personal and intimately revealing in its lyrics; too low-fidelity and low-budget in its production; too angular in its melodies and riffs; too raw, skronky and abrasive; wrapped in too many sheets of Sonic Youth/Dinosaur Jr./Pixies/Jesus & Mary Chain-style guitar noise; too oblique and fractured in its song structures; too influenced by experimental or otherwise unpopular musical styles. Regardless of the specifics, it's rock made by and for outsiders — much like alternative once was, except that thanks to its crossover, indie rock has a far greater wariness of excess testosterone.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by troutman

The Grandfathers of Grunge: Iggy Pop & Stooges, Neil Young & Crazy Horse, Husker Du, Pixies, Replacements

What do the Pixies have to do with grunge? I think their music is almost the anti-grunge. Mostly clean guitar, some surf guitar sound. Nothing like the distorted grungy guitar sound that defined grunge.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

What do the Pixies have to do with grunge? I think their music is almost the anti-grunge. Mostly clean guitar, some surf guitar sound. Nothing like the distorted grungy guitar sound that defined grunge.

Kurt Cobain always hailed them as his biggest influence. The loud soft loud came from the Pixies among others. Lets not quibble about labels.

The Pixies' busy, brief songs, extreme dynamics, and subversion of pop song structures proved one of the touchstones of '90s alternative rock. From grunge to Britpop, the Pixies' shadow loomed large — it's hard to imagine Nirvana without the Pixies' signature stop-start dynamics and lurching, noisy guitar solos. [allmusic]

[Flames_18_22_12]

Look into the Velvet Underground, they have a bunch of different sounds and some pretty good tunes. They are also considered one of the first punk bands and have a huge influence even though they never reached the fame of other bands like the Sex Pistols.

[PsYcNeT]

Other big Grunge influences and participators (I love Husker Du and Mudhoney btw): The Melvins, Shocking Blue, Dead Milkmen

And I don't completely agree with the Pixies being completely 'clean'. There was always a noticible bit of gain on quite a few songs, even if they used acoustics a fair bit.

[someguy51]

If you like the Pixies you should buy the "Loud Quiet Loud" dvd. Its a documentary from their 2004 reunion tour. Very Interesting. But after watching it I lost all hope of a new Pixies album...

Here's a link:
http://www.amazon.ca/Loud-QUIET-Film...?ie=UTF8&s=dvd

And another:
http://loudquietloud.com/

[someguy51]

Oops. Forgot to mention that every once in a while they actually play the Pixies song "Dig for Fire" at the dome during Flames games.

[flames14]

Other good bands are Blind Melon (who where fronted by the late Shannon Hoon), Mother Love Bone. Also check out Wolfmother, Their new but if you like the 70's sound you'll like them. Brian Jonestown Massacre are pretty good as well as: Bush, Filter, I Mother Earth, Institute, Jane's Addiction, Mad Season, Modest Mouse, My Morning Jacket, Queens of The Stoneage, Screeming Trees, Temple of the Dog and Radiohead

[PsYcNeT]

I for one can't stand the Zepplin-esqueness of Wolfmother, if only because it's just so...forced :/

I'll second Brian Jonestown Massacre and throw in The Dandy Warhols for good measure.

Since you mentioned IME, there were alot of good Canadian bands doing the 'alternative' thing around that time too, like Limblifter/Age Of Electric (essentially the same band), Sloan, and Treble Charger before they started to suck

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

What do the Pixies have to do with grunge? I think their music is almost the anti-grunge. Mostly clean guitar, some surf guitar sound. Nothing like the distorted grungy guitar sound that defined grunge.

The Pixies were a huge influence on "grunge", especially Nirvana. Early Radiohead was very influenced by the Pixies, and that early stuff was the "grungiest" of Radiohead's material.

I guess it depends on how you define "grunge"...it's kind of a silly label. To me its the loud quiet loud dynamic that was a big part of 1990's rock.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Neil Young's rock forays with the band Crazy Horse are required listening for this genre.

Good call on the Replacements as well.