U.S.A. is the Biggest Threat to World Peace

[FlamesAddiction]

At least according to a multi-country survey:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5077984.stm

Goodwill towards the US had fallen from 71% to 56% in India, from 41% to 23% in Spain and from 23% to 12% in Turkey.

A majority of people in 10 of the 14 countries outside the US surveyed said the war in Iraq had made the world a more dangerous place.

Some 60% of people in the UK, which is the US biggest ally, felt the Iraq war had made the world less secure, while 30% said it had made the world safer.

China was in fact looked upon more favourably:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4124164.stm

Europe, and France specifically, is seen as a benevolent force:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4413913.stm

[Table 5]

france? are you kidding me?

[FlamesAddiction]

Here are more results:

http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?PageID=824

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Table 5

france? are you kidding me?

Makes you wonder, huh? Actually makes me think this study is BS.

Like the French would ever hurt anyone.

[jolinar of malkshor]

The US has always had a negative image and always will have one. As long as they are a Super power and a wealthy country others will look down upon them in envy. Invading other countries only helps to re-enforce that image.

[Neeper]

Originally Posted by Azure

Makes you wonder, huh? Actually makes me think this study is BS.

Like the French would ever hurt anyone.

What about Canada? Haha, France would kick our ass.

[White Doors]

Originally Posted by Neeper

What about Canada? Haha, France would kick our ass.

What???

Are you on drugs? Have you taken ANY history?

My gawd....

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by White Doors

What???

Are you on drugs? Have you taken ANY history?

My gawd....

France is actually a pretty strong country militarily. They are one of 3 or 4 countries that have aircraft carriers, and the ability to transport large numbers of troops quickly. Capabilities that Canada does not have.

Their draw back is that their land mass is located in such a way that it is extremely difficult to defend. They can project power, but they have trouble defending themselves, historically anyway. Of course, after WWII, I would imagine they learned a few things, and it undoubtedly shaped their current attitude.

[Agamemnon]

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Originally Posted by White Doors

What???

Are you on drugs? Have you taken ANY history?

My gawd....

Have you? I believe when France made their European run their empire exceeded Nazi Germany and the Roman Empire. Its not like their history is one of defeat after defeat since the dawn of time... a notion that seems popular among people whot think 'history' started in 1938.

They've also fought several 'Vietnams' this century, and their current combat experience probably outstrips Canada's by several factors. They also have nuclear weapons.

[White Doors]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

France is actually a pretty strong country militarily. They are one of 3 or 4 countries that have aircraft carriers, and the ability to transport large numbers of troops quickly. Capabilities that Canada does not have.

Their draw back is that their land mass is located in such a way that it is extremely difficult to defend. They can project power, but they have trouble defending themselves, historically anyway. Of course, after WWII, I would imagine they learned a few things, and it undoubtedly shaped their current attitude.

I was speaking not about current military strength, but of their fighting history. Canada has never lost a war that we were involved in.

[White Doors]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

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Have you? I believe when France made their European run their empire exceeded Nazi Germany and the Roman Empire. Its not like their history is one of defeat after defeat since the dawn of time... a notion that seems popular among people whot think 'history' started in 1938.

They've also fought several 'Vietnams' this century, and their current combat experience probably outstrips Canada's by several factors. They also have nuclear weapons.

Yes, led my a Corsican...

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by White Doors

Yes, led my a Corsican...

So?

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by White Doors

I was speaking not about current military strength, but of their fighting history. Canada has never lost a war that we were involved in.

Again... so? You think Canada will point out that its 'never lost a war', and the French would roll over and concede? You refuted a point that France was militarly 'better' than Canada, citing a vague reference to history. I don't have a clue what you're trying to say, beyond that its essence seems to be broadly anti-French.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Again... so? You think Canada will point out that its 'never lost a war', and the French would roll over and concede? You refuted a point that France was militarly 'better' than Canada, citing a vague reference to history. I don't have a clue what you're trying to say, beyond that its essence seems to be broadly anti-French.

Its a French bashing thing. Look up French Military Victories on google, "I'm feeling lucky."

Nothing against their military strength, or the fact that they have nuclear weapons. I think we also need to remember the French Foreign Legion. A elite fighting force.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

I don't have a clue what you're trying to say, beyond that its essence seems to be broadly anti-French.

So?

[Cowboy]

Originally Posted by White Doors

What???

Are you on drugs? Have you taken ANY history?

My gawd....

What does prior history have to do with Frances ability to beat our ass today? If it came strictly down to country vs. country battle based on the capabilities of the military today and size of military, we would have our ass handed to us.

[TheCommodoreAfro]

Originally Posted by Azure

Makes you wonder, huh? Actually makes me think this study is BS.

Pew Research is an independent research group (like Gallup) who use their research for profitable gain in the public sector. About as straight down the middle as it gets.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by TheCommodoreAfro

Pew Research is an independent research group (like Gallup) who use their research for profitable gain in the public sector. About as straight down the middle as it gets.

I'm not discrediting the results, but there is no way you can make me believe France is a threat to world peace.

The idea of "world peace" in itself is a theory that will never be accomplished. Nations will always have a conflict of interests, based on military, economic or political ideas. War is a given until the end of time.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by White Doors

Yes, led my a Corsican...

And the Grenadiers of the Imperial Guard were all French. Your point?

[Kjesse]

There's no question that France's military is stronger than Canada's. Its not even close. Further, there has never been a time that Canada's military could match up against France's --- not even on the occasions when France was occupied. (Assuming one could actually mobilize the remnants of their military during occupation.)

Canada's been on the side of the "winner" because we're usually teamed up with the best military machines the planet has to offer. Even when the history books say that in the only Canadian/American conflict, we thumped the Americans, we were really only a British colony. And the British were tops then and are still possibly in the top 5 militarily (but surely in the top 10).

We've made important (even critical) contributions to the wars we've been involved in but we're not a powerful player when you stack us up against most other industrialized countries, one on one.

White Doors backed off his comment pretty fast though.