[News Roundup] Training Camp day 12

[sureLoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1841156331295637555

[FBI]

Klapka the only guy from the youth movement making it?

[Toonage]

I'm betting Group B plays on Friday with select few from Group A added to the mix.

That said I'd be very surprised if Hanley & Schwindt make the team over some of the guys in Group B.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Group A is your starting night roster. Don't freak out when you see your favorite young prospect cut.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by FBI

Klapka the only guy from the youth movement making it?

And Schwindt

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Group A is your starting night roster. Don't freak out when you see your favorite young prospect cut.

I don't see Schwindt making it over Pelletier, or Coronato.

[Goriders]

I’d swap Honzek for Schwindt and Grushnikov for Hanley

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I don't see Schwindt making it over Pelletier, or Coronato.

I can’t see any of those 3 making it. Yet.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I don't see Schwindt making it over Pelletier, or Coronato.

Unfortunately, I do.

Pelletier has been almost invisible all camp. Coronato racked up a bunch of points against the other team's prospects and AHL players, but when the NHLers starting getting into the lineup, he struggled.

They're both going down, at least to start the year.

I personally would prefer Morton over Schwindt, but my thought is they want to develop Morton into more of a scoring than checking center in the AHL. He hasn't been pro very long and could do with some work down there.

[Muta]

I hope Morton gets some NHL time this year. Some more seasoning in the A first would probably be the best plan for him, but by February or March it'd be awesome to see him on this roster full-time.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Unfortunately, I do.

Pelletier has been almost invisible all camp. Coronato racked up a bunch of points against the other team's prospects and AHL players, but when the NHLers starting getting into the lineup, he struggled.

They're both going down, at least to start the year.

I personally would prefer Morton over Schwindt, but my thought is they want to develop Morton into more of a scoring than checking center in the AHL. He hasn't been pro very long and could do with some work down there.

Schwindt also has 4 years of AHL experience now. He is 23 and while is development isn't over he seems to have stalled our as a 4th liner and someone you can send up and down.

With the team lacking natural centers it makes sense having him as an extra.

It would be dumb to keep players like Pelletier, Honzek, Coronato or even the dman and healthy scratch them or use them in 4th line roles. They all need to play.

It's not a bad thing at all, it's actually great. We have some really good young players that can come up and play up the lineup.

Far better than the days of Warren Peters and Dustin Boyd.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Group A is your starting night roster. Don't freak out when you see your favorite young prospect cut.

I have my opinions on the last forward, and not sure Schwindt is who I would take but anyhow, I do think it would be a mistake to keep 33 yo Joel Hanley over Solovyov . recognizing that yes Solo can also benefit from AHL ice time- I don't know enough about every roster in the NHL at this time of year but I think someone might snag him

[Burning Beard]

No point in being upset about any of this I reckon. One thing Conroy has certainly done is give all the kids a chance. If they start in the A they won't be there all year long if they keep pushing.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by looooob

I have my opinions on the last forward, and not sure Schwindt is who I would take but anyhow, I do think it would be a mistake to keep 33 yo Joel Hanley over Solovyov . recognizing that yes Solo can also benefit from AHL ice time- I don't know enough about every roster in the NHL at this time of year but I think someone might snag him

I don't think Solo is on many team's radars at all, and they have their own Solos they need to manage and get through waivers. The idea that someone urgently needs his talents enough to keep him on their NHL roster to start the year is highly unlikely. We go through this every year and everyone always frets about prospects being claimed on waivers. There's probably a higher likelihood of Hanley being claimed due to his amount of experience in the NHL (still very unlikely).

I'm not flustered if it happens. The fact is that guys like Solovyov may not even be on the team in a year or two even if he makes it. We still have Weegar, probably for the length of his contract. Parekh, Brusztewicz and Grushnikov are all likely to be on the team within a couple years, likely higher in the lineup than Solo, so there's your top 4 projected. This doesn't consider any other prospects like Poirier, Morin, Mews, Kuznetsove etc. who may end being much better than what Solo is now. Solovyov is not going to be more than a bottom pairing guy, and a relatively replaceable one at that. That's coming from someone who likes his overall game, but I'm not blown away by him, and it's likely he'll be another Adam Pardy like journeyman at best.

[EVERLAST]

Morton is playing a good 200ft game . He's also 27 ? He's not noticeable because he's doing his
Job. Quietly is doing what Gelinas used to do and this team needs that badly.

I think Pelts has been passed or will be soon . Guys are gonna just get better as the season progresses and he's standing still and woooosh...there goes your opportunity son.

I see Coronatos improvement, i see Honzi just getting stronger and stronger , Morton as
Mentioned . Heck....theres guys that after 30 games will be better than Kadri.

Zary needs to really UP his game and check thr rear view mirror often because people are
Coming for his job too.

Thank God Conroy and Huska making these guys think about their jobs , no guarantees and maybe not meritocracy unless it's consistently being proven every game.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by EVERLAST

Morton is playing a good 200ft game . He's also 27 ? He's not noticeable because he's doing his
Job. Quietly is doing what Gelinas used to do and this team needs that badly.

I think Pelts has been passed or will be soon . Guys are gonna just get better as the season progresses and he's standing still and woooosh...there goes your opportunity son.

I see Coronatos improvement, i see Honzi just getting stronger and stronger , Morton as
Mentioned . Heck....theres guys that after 30 games will be better than Kadri.

Zary needs to really UP his game and check thr rear view mirror often because people are
Coming for his job too.

Thank God Conroy and Huska making these guys think about their jobs , no guarantees and maybe not meritocracy unless it's consistently being proven every game.

Turned 25 July 28.

[keenan87]

While I believe in Conroy.. it is kind of unsettling that a rebuilding team can't make space for former first round picks. This shouldn't be an issue.

Guys like Coleman, Kuzmenko, Mantha should be on their way out this season.

Same goes with the defense.

[CsInMyBlood]

I just dont see the downside to starting Pellitier with the big club. If he plays his way off the team so be it. If he shows he deserves to he in the lineup then he stays.

It's not like hes looked bad in this camp, but others have looked really good. I understand the others probably deserve a spot over him but they can also benefit from a lot of icetime on the farm.

Make his fate his own before he hits the waiver wire.

[868904]

I only watched last nights highlight package and Solo was way too noticeable; which is a bad thing for him as a defensive defenceman.

He needs more seasoning.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by keenan87

While I believe in Conroy.. it is kind of unsettling that a rebuilding team can't make space for former first round picks. This shouldn't be an issue.

Guys like Coleman, Kuzmenko, Mantha should be on their way out this season.

Same goes with the defense.

That's too simplified.

You have to weight the impact of losing say Pelletier along with the probability vs the loss in asset value of trading any of the veterans you listed prematurely.

If moving say Mantha now turns his return into a 5th round pick vs a 2nd at the deadline, perhaps that's of greater value than the 35% chance of losing Pelletier on waivers (guess on percentage) coupled with the chance that he rebounds with more time.