11-23-2023, 01:05 PM
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First Line Centre
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Leafs place D John Klingberg on LTIR
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@Sportsnet
The Maple Leafs have placed John Klingberg on LTIR.
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11-23-2023, 01:06 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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To make room for which Calgary Flame?
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11-23-2023, 01:07 PM
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#3
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor
To make room for which Calgary Flame?
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yes
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11-23-2023, 01:08 PM
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#4
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Franchise Player
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Bad players with bad contracts seem to go on LTIR a lot
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11-23-2023, 01:54 PM
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#5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Bad players with bad contracts seem to go on LTIR a lot
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There is a reason they are bad.
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11-23-2023, 01:56 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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I hope they take good care of him on Robidas Island.
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11-23-2023, 02:00 PM
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#7
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Bad players with bad contracts seem to go on LTIR a lot
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The least they could do is makeup a comedic injury excuse like Hossa and his jersey related allergies.
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11-23-2023, 02:01 PM
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#8
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Bad players with bad contracts seem to go on LTIR a lot
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11-23-2023, 02:05 PM
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#9
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Franchise Player
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I don't follow a lot of other sports like I used to, does this "mysterious LTIR injury" thing happen across the board?
Last edited by CalgaryFan1988; 11-23-2023 at 02:07 PM.
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11-23-2023, 04:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
I don't follow a lot of other sports like I used to, does this "mysterious LTIR injury" thing happen across the board?
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In the NHL - definitely!
It's used to put bad player on LTIR and gain cap space.
Toronto alone put: Muzzin, Murray, and Klingberg on LTIR. All in opportune moments when they needed cap space.
Edmonton did this with M. Smith.
Vegas is doing it with Lehner.
Then you have instances like Kucherov missing the entire season, but joining the team for the playoffs so Tampa could repeat.
Stone did a similar thing with Vegas last year.
Everyone in the NHL is battling through something during the season, so it's hard to gauge pain, and the toll the accumulation of injuries takes.
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11-23-2023, 04:35 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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LTIR needs to be fixed.
Getting way too “convenient” for these teams that overspend.
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11-23-2023, 04:46 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
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LTIR should require passing a protocol that includes a league rep investigating the nature/extent of the injury to confirm that it meets the criteria.
Teams are abusing this too much for injuries that are all but certainly less than serious & long term. You're not fooling anybody that it just HAPPENS to be the albatross that is handcuffing your cap situation.
You especially can't let Toronto and Edmonton get away with it. They've earned the cap pickles they've found themselves in.
Last edited by TrentCrimmIndependent; 11-23-2023 at 04:48 PM.
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11-23-2023, 04:53 PM
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Who ####ing cares. “I want this team to pay a penalty for paying way more for a player than I consider fair”. I can’t think of a bigger waste of my brain space for hockey on “LTIR abuse”
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11-23-2023, 05:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Who ####ing cares. “I want this team to pay a penalty for paying way more for a player than I consider fair”. I can’t think of a bigger waste of my brain space for hockey on “LTIR abuse”
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It might not matter except that multiple recent cup winners have utilized it and iced line ups that would exceed the cap in playoffs. When you're talking about it factoring into championships, I think it deserves greater attention.
How are we deciding the best team of the lot each year when it isn't being played on an even playing field. For a game that people pour so much money into each year and league that's touted as the best in the world there should at the very least be integrity with these things. Otherwise it's only the best at certain things, and bush league with others.
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11-23-2023, 05:16 PM
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Hossa on LTIR will always be the classic for me.
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11-23-2023, 05:27 PM
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#16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
LTIR should require passing a protocol that includes a league rep investigating the nature/extent of the injury to confirm that it meets the criteria.
Teams are abusing this too much for injuries that are all but certainly less than serious & long term. You're not fooling anybody that it just HAPPENS to be the albatross that is handcuffing your cap situation.
You especially can't let Toronto and Edmonton get away with it. They've earned the cap pickles they've found themselves in.
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The league does look into specific situations
The issue is teams can have a roster that exceeds the cap in the playoffs. But that’s how the rules are written.
The idea that players are faking injuries is overblown
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11-23-2023, 05:35 PM
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Location: Ontario
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It's not going to change unless the owners want a change, and not enough of them want it to change because they want to be able to do the same thing if they have to.
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11-23-2023, 05:36 PM
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#18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Bad players with bad contracts seem to go on LTIR a lot
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11-23-2023, 05:37 PM
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My favourite solution so far and the simplest - You can do whatever you want with LTIR but each roster that you ice for a playoff game must be cap compliant that night. So yeah, you can be $14m or $18mil over the cap in the playoffs like Tampa and Vegas were.
But the roster on the ice that game can't exceed the cap, so you need to make decisions.
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11-23-2023, 05:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
My favourite solution so far and the simplest - You can do whatever you want with LTIR but each roster that you ice for a playoff game must be cap compliant that night. So yeah, you can be $14m or $18mil over the cap in the playoffs like Tampa and Vegas were.
But the roster on the ice that game can't exceed the cap, so you need to make decisions.
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I believe something like that would require a change to the cba
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