View Poll Results: Do you like the current coach's challenge and video review format?
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Love it. Glad they are getting it right.
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Like it. It's good but needs a few tweaks.
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Meh. It needs quite a bit of improvement.
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Hate it. This is the crease rule 2.0.
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04-19-2016, 05:46 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Current coach's challenge and video review format
Let's make a poll. How are you feeling about the current use of video review with regards to offside and/or goaltender interference?
If you'd change it what would you change?
i hate it. I think it is at least as bad as the foot in the crease rule.
Last edited by Cecil Terwilliger; 04-19-2016 at 05:49 PM.
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04-19-2016, 05:51 PM
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#2
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Needs improvement, offsides shouldn't be reviewable, or at least not looking back a minute before a goal.
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04-19-2016, 05:52 PM
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#3
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Franchise Player
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I like it. Added bonus is that it might shine some light on some rules that need to be tweaked.
A lot of people were annoyed at the called back goal the other night as a result of the technical offside. That might be one. Personally I'd love players to be able to touch up if they're offside rather than refs blowing the play dead right away. Not that that was the situation the other night, but perhaps that's the next step if they start tweaking offside rules.
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04-19-2016, 06:00 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Kelowna, BC
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i like it - it's good to get the call right, but i think there needs to be some tweaks
one tweak that is a must is the time from a goal being scored and the amount of time the coach has to decide if he is going to challenge the call. it seems if it's close the coach takes forever to decide. make it a set time... 15 seconds? 30 seconds? 45 seconds? 60 seconds? but after what ever the set time is, too bad, so sad, you took to long to decide
another tweak is to make it extremely clear as to what 'goalie interference' is. it just seems to be very inconsistent
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04-19-2016, 06:06 PM
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#5
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Get rid of the off side reviews. We have linesmen to do that or get rid of the linesmen and have it called by a camera in real time.
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04-19-2016, 06:08 PM
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#6
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Franchise Player
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Like it but an unsuccessful challenge should result in a delay of game penalty. That would solve the problem with all the silly challenges.
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04-19-2016, 06:13 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Like it for goaltender interference. Hate it for offsides.
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04-19-2016, 06:20 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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Good timing!
I don't like it at all. I pointed out in the other thread the ridiculousness of a call being made wrong if it happens at 18:59 and a team has no time outs.
Offside is the worst though. It makes no sense that a goal can be called off because the linesman incorrectly calls a play onside yet there is nothing that can be done if a linesman takes away a scoring chance by incorrectly calling a play offside.
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04-19-2016, 06:23 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Behind Enemy Lines
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offside calls more than 30s before a goal is scored should stay the call they were originally. Other than that, I feel it's working pretty good.
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04-19-2016, 06:26 PM
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#10
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Franchise Player
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All reviews should be done by Toronto rather than depending on the ref to overturn his own call
There should be a time limit
I also like the delay of game penalty if your challenge is wrong
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04-19-2016, 06:35 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by krynski
offside calls more than 30s before a goal is scored should stay the call they were originally. Other than that, I feel it's working pretty good.
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30 seconds is a long time in hockey... I'd say 10 seconds max or just get rid of it...
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04-19-2016, 06:37 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Behind Enemy Lines
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Quote:
Originally Posted by badradio
30 seconds is a long time in hockey... I'd say 10 seconds max or just get rid of it...
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Yeah, maybe 10 seconds would be more appropriate. I typed 15, then back spaced it and put 30. Regardless, the number is arbitrary, but IMO, it should have some sort of limitation.
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04-19-2016, 06:39 PM
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#13
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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I hate it for the same reason I hated the crease rule....it makes me hesitate to celebrate/curse when a goal is called, as I now always wonder if there will be a review. Yes, it's more accurate, but its taking away from the entertainment factor.
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04-19-2016, 06:40 PM
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#14
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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People might say this is a paradoxical stance on my part, but I like the goaltender interference part, but I dislike the offside part.
Goaltender interference occurs often, is regularly overlooked, and directly leads to a goal being scored. This is more subjective, but needs to be looked at more often since referees are hesitant to call it live. If the refs called it more when it happened, we wouldn't need a review.
Of all the offside called back goals, I have yet to see a scenario where it was an egregious mistake by the linesman, and it directly led to a goal that shouldn't have been scored.
I know that it's black and white with the offside thing, but frankly, it's so far from the net that an extra inch makes absolutely no difference with the current speed of the game. It's pointless to penalize teams for this, and the linesmen get it right so often that it seems like we should trust their judgement more often.
The only scenario where we should look at offsides in review is if the puck may or may not have been cleared out of the zone, which would force the offense to reset. Calling it when players are on the rush, or tagging up is pretty much insignificant unless they're a full foot offside...which never happens.
So basically, my stance is we shouldn't review these things, because most of the time the officials get the offsides right, and referees should be better at calling goaltender interference. We need a stricter view on what is reviewable, and what is not. It needs a lot of work, otherwise it will cost teams games that it shouldn't cost them otherwise.
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04-19-2016, 06:44 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Oshawa
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I despise it. I hated it even before it was implemented, as I generally don't have an issue with the odd human error. I hate having a great game grind to a halt while they make a decision, and honestly would prefer the occasional human error. Football is so boring, and I hate the NHL trying to copy it.
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04-19-2016, 06:51 PM
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Closet Jedi
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There definitely needs to be a certain time period after which the offside is not reviewable. No one wants to see a puck maintain zonetime for 3 minutes, score a goal, only to be disallowed because of an offside from what feels like ages ago. From a theoretical stand point, if the Defensive Team is up a goal, strongly suspect a play is offside, they could let the Offensive Team maintain offensive control and freeroll the game. Either time runs out and they win, or the Offensive team scores but the goal is disallowed.
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04-19-2016, 06:54 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Locked in the Trunk of a Car
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I just think blatant offsides should be affected, like two skates over the line or maybe a meter beyond the blue line.
These tight calls are just wrong, but in effect that's what the rule was made for (the blatant offside) and not the hairline ones.
Just need to tweet the rule.
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04-19-2016, 06:56 PM
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#18
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Lifetime Suspension
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It was in, in 2004!
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04-19-2016, 07:00 PM
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#19
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csnarpy
These tight calls are just wrong, but in effect that's what the rule was made for (the blatant offside) and not the hairline ones.
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The blatant offsides should easily caught by the linesman though, no?
Either way, I think human error, for better or for worse, is part of the fun of sports.
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04-19-2016, 07:06 PM
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#20
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Keep the offsides reviews but have them reviewed in Toronto and not by linesmen with tiny tablets. Also if it has been more than 15 seconds since they entered the offensive zone a goal shouldn't be called back by being offside.
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