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Old 08-24-2015, 06:40 PM   #1
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It’s great that the vast majority of men’s players graduate (female athletes have better graduation rates overall and from one NCAA study I found, the same holds for hockey), but in a quick survey I did with a random group of players a year ago, many agreed that a little extra cash would have been nice, just to stay full when team meals didn’t cover everything.

That’s where this “cost of attendance” stipend can help. According to Mark Divver of the Providence Journal, the Providence Friars (men and women) will receive $1,800 during the upcoming season on top of their scholarships. The WCHA conference also put out a statement saying that it supports the new legislation for both its men’s and women’s member schools, though it seems as though it will be up to the schools whether or not to participate.

Some schools are taking a wait-and-see approach, such as Robert Morris University of the Atlantic Hockey conference. Colonials coach Derek Schooley wants to form an educated opinion on the matter before he takes an official stance either way, but he does believe consistency will be important, whether it’s a yes or a no.

“I think the whole conference has to do it,” he told me. “Because otherwise it would create a competitive disadvantage.”
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Well, this is going to be interesting, because the NCAA's draconian rules bar any CHL player explicitly because of the stipend the WHL, OHL and QMJHL pay makes them "professionals" in their eyes. I wonder how (or if) the NCAA tries to justify that argument following this?
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Well, this is going to be interesting, because the NCAA's draconian rules bar any CHL player explicitly because of the stipend the WHL, OHL and QMJHL pay makes them "professionals" in their eyes. I wonder how (or if) the NCAA tries to justify that argument following this?
There is another reason besides the stipend.

The NCAA views also views the CHL as a pro league because they let players that are under NHL contract to play in the CHL. While these players under contract with the NHL, the NHL pays them while they are playing in the CHL, thus they are pro players.
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Good, a nominal flat rate subsidy. Works out to about $250 a month which is still far from what a part time job would pay but gives the kids some spending money.
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was just about to post. The timing doesn't sound like a co-incidence.
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There is another reason besides the stipend.

The NCAA views also views the CHL as a pro league because they let players that are under NHL contract to play in the CHL. While these players under contract with the NHL, the NHL pays them while they are playing in the CHL, thus they are pro players.
Do they get paid or do they just get bonus money?
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Do they get paid or do they just get bonus money?
They get bonus money and $10,500 for a full season in major junior.
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They get bonus money and $10,500 for a full season in major junior.
Not in the WHL they don't, it may be a couple of hundred a month. They are a lot more strict then Tier 2 (AJHL) where their NCAA eligible players can get cash, gift cards, and flights all under the table.

http://juniorhockeytruth.com/whl-ohl...yers-get-paid/


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Not in the WHL they don't, it may be a couple of hundred a month. They are a lot more strict then Tier 2 (AJHL) where their NCAA eligible players can get cash, gift cards, and flights all under the table.

http://juniorhockeytruth.com/whl-ohl...yers-get-paid/


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Huh? I was referring to players in the CHL under NHL contract get paid from the NHL team (from the CBA Article 9 Entry Level Compensation ):

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The maximum compensation payable to a Group 1 Player who is playing in the Major Juniors shall be U.S. $10,500 per League Year.
That is why the NCAA can still consider the CHL leagues as being professional even though both now are giving players a stipiend. The NHL teams that assign players under NHL contract to the CHL are still paying them (whether it be bonuses and/or the above mentioned compensation) and therefore can be considered professional.

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great for janko now let's get gio signed to the same deal
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Makes sense.
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UND hockey players will get up to $3400 as a stipend

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