Just been reading about Kim Ng and the possibility of her becoming the first female GM in MLB history. Wanted to know what people's thoughts were in regards to hockey, when (if ever) do you think we'll see any women in the upper management positions for a club? (If there are any, let me know)
Also this question can extend to a lot of different parts of the game, will there ever be female players consistently (I know about that Tampa goalie), what about just female refs (Are there any?) or female coaches?
Just curious if anyone knows anything about progress being made in any of these areas or if you think it won't ever change?
Without knowing much about anything in business, if any women has a chance to get in to management and have any type of respect from the 'old boys club', I'd have to think it would be Hayley Wickenheiser. In what type of role or team, no idea. I don;t think it'd be a Southern team since they are ass backwards in most other things.
Just been reading about Kim Ng and the possibility of her becoming the first female GM in MLB history. Wanted to know what people's thoughts were in regards to hockey, when (if ever) do you think we'll see any women in the upper management positions for a club? (If there are any, let me know)
Also this question can extend to a lot of different parts of the game, will there ever be female players consistently (I know about that Tampa goalie), what about just female refs (Are there any?) or female coaches?
Just curious if anyone knows anything about progress being made in any of these areas or if you think it won't ever change?
The NHL is full of 'old boys club' members. It'll be hard for women to crack upper management.
I firmly believe if they hold the experience, smarts, and education to perform the job, then regardless of sex anyone should be able to fill that role.
Hockey still has far too much of an old boys club mentality for a woman to rise high in hockey ops, I think. Not even necessarily because they are women, but because there is still a very large thought process of "only former NHL players understand." Some without that background have broken through, but the NHL is still only dipping its toes into the idea of coaches, GMs, presidents who aren't Canadian or American.
Female players? Not consistently, no. Likewise referees and linesmen. That's just simple genetics. Only the biggest, fastest and strongest women would be able to withstand the NHL. One will come along eventually, and then another, but that is a long way down the road. There will be a lot more Hayley Wickenheiser types playing in the low minors first.
I firmly believe if they hold the experience, smarts, and education to perform the job, then regardless of sex anyone should be able to fill that role.
Disagree
As GM, she'll have to make trades with 29 other male GMs to improve her roster. I cant see that ending too well with the other GMs trying to target her and making ridiculous trade proposals
Two comments already about women playing in the NHL.
This thread isn't about women playing if anyone cares to read the OP
Uh, wrong.
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Originally Posted by Scoutski
Hey everyone
Just been reading about Kim Ng and the possibility of her becoming the first female GM in MLB history. Wanted to know what people's thoughts were in regards to hockey, when (if ever) do you think we'll see any women in the upper management positions for a club? (If there are any, let me know)
Also this question can extend to a lot of different parts of the game, will there ever be female players consistently (I know about that Tampa goalie), what about just female refs (Are there any?) or female coaches?
Just curious if anyone knows anything about progress being made in any of these areas or if you think it won't ever change?
No woman will ever play any position other than goalie in the NHL. A number of obvious reasons why.
I agree that this is true for the foreseeable future.
But it got me thinking, what would it take, and I'm not sure I agree that a goalie would be a very likely position. After all, goalies are usually big, and it's also one the most tightly contested spots.
I think a non-physical playmaking winger would be the most likely position, since it's a position that is, I think, least about physical strength. You don't even necessarily have to be that fast to play that role, as some older players have shown. And it's not that rare to see an AHL journeyman or some other "filler" player in depth scoring roles when a team has a string of injuries. That to me suggests that the odds of a women getting one of those spots at least for a while would be higher than some other spots.
As long as the NHL remains the premier hockey league in the world, no woman will ever play a game in anything other than a stunt.
Management on the other hand... sure, that'll happen at some point.
I can imagine refs too. It's not a huge club to begin with and it doesn't require anything physically that a female hockey player couldn't do. Sure, some size is nice when you go between players, but some women are pretty strong. And it's not like players generally actually start fighting the refs physically.
It would also be much easier for the NHL to hire a woman that it would be for a team to do that I think. After all, a ref is the same for both sides, so nobody can claim you're giving an advantage to the other guy.
And it would be the kind of PR a league wants more than the kind of attention a team wants.
I agree that this is true for the foreseeable future.
But it got me thinking, what would it take, and I'm not sure I agree that a goalie would be a very likely position. After all, goalies are usually big, and it's also one the most tightly contested spots.
I think a non-physical playmaking winger would be the most likely position, since it's a position that is, I think, least about physical strength. You don't even necessarily have to be that fast to play that role, as some older players have shown. And it's not that rare to see an AHL journeyman or some other "filler" player in depth scoring roles when a team has a string of injuries. That to me suggests that the odds of a women getting one of those spots at least for a while would be higher than some other spots.
I'd suggest the concern is more about a female being hit....
I know a woman (former Olympic player) who's officiated at the Euro pro level.
It's not easy, and you do need to be able to handle players fighting. She's built like a bowling ball but even still has difficulty and needs to be paired with certain other officials.
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