Welcome to the American Police State

[Cole436]

I realize there is a thread on American politics, but this is far too important to get lost in that.

[malcolmk14]

Really? Too important?

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Really? Too important?

You don't think the fact that a bill that is one signature away from destroying the American Constitution effectively rendering it police state is worthy of a topic on its own?

[TurnedTheCorner]

Walter Cronkite would have been even more trustworthy with a Guy Fawkes mask.

[malcolmk14]

Originally Posted by Cole436

You don't think the fact that a bill that is one signature away from destroying the American Constitution effectively rendering it police state is worthy of a topic on its own?

I think you undermined the discussion right off the bat by posting a video made by a dude in a Guy Fawkes mask.

Here's the New York Times article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/08/op...m.html?_r=1&hp

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

I think you undermined the discussion right off the bat by posting a video made by a dude in a Guy Fawkes mask.

Here's the New York Times article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/08/op...m.html?_r=1&hp

I think you're underestimating the organization run by "a dude in Guy Fawkes mas"

[CaptainCrunch]

And the fact that he was using propaganda posters from Futurama.

I watched this and said to myself "holy sh1t man, when is this movie hitting theatres"

[TurnedTheCorner]

Yeah, they sure showed those other net tards at lulzsec. This is a "real world" issue though.

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

And the fact that he was using propaganda posters from Futurama.

I watched this and said to myself "holy sh1t man, when is this movie hitting theatres"

Shouldn't that worry you enough because this bill isn't a movie, it's friggen real?

[Ozy_Flame]

Stylized and unnecessarily Hollywood-esque, but the bill is something to be concerned about if I was an American. When James Clapper and Leon Panetta don't even want this bill to go through, you know it's a hot topic issue.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Ve. To.

Next.

[Cole436]

American citizens in the United States could be detained indefinitely without trial

Does that sound like a nothing bill to you?

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

Ve. To.

Next.

It's passed the senate and the house. It needs one signature.
Considering there has been NO media attention about this, people should be legitimately worried.

[REDVAN]

Wow... anti-establishment propaganda. What else is new?

[malcolmk14]

Originally Posted by Cole436

I think you're underestimating the organization run by "a dude in Guy Fawkes mas"

Maybe I'm just more inclined to listen to what someone has to say when they believe in it enough to show their face.

Originally Posted by Cole436

Considering there has been NO media attention about this, people should be legitimately worried.

Here's a fairly well-balanced article by Charlie Savage at the NY Times from last week.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/30/us...ml?ref=opinion

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by REDVAN

Wow... anti-establishment propaganda. What else is new?

American citizens in the United States could be detained indefinitely without trial.
American citizens in the United States could be detained indefinitely without trial.
American citizens in the United States could be detained indefinitely without trial.
American citizens in the United States could be detained indefinitely without trial.
American citizens in the United States could be detained indefinitely without trial.
American citizens in the United States could be detained indefinitely without trial.
American citizens in the United States could be detained indefinitely without trial.

Written RIGHT INTO IT

[TurnedTheCorner]

Originally Posted by Cole436

It's passed the senate and the house. It needs one signature.
Considering there has been NO media attention about this, people should be legitimately worried.

Obama's. Who has threatened to veto the bill. Which was validated by Google searching for less than 2 minutes.

Here, I'm going to try and bridge the communication gap we're having:



Am I getting through?

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Maybe I'm just more inclined to listen to what someone has to say when they believe in it enough to show their face.

Here's a fairly well-balanced article by Charlie Savage at the NY Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/30/us...ml?ref=opinion

Why should it matter who's telling it? It's the truth! It's written into the bill!

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

Obama's. Who has threatened to veto the bill. Which was validated by Google searching for less than 2 minutes.

Here, I'm going to try and bridge the communication gap we're having:



Am I getting through?

And Kayria promised to re-sign with the Ducks.
It's a wait and see, the fact that it's gotten this far without any sort of media notice is terrifying

[TurnedTheCorner]

Or maybe this?