Israel declares war on Hamas

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Do you enjoy wallowing in ignorance? I never understood that position, to be so boisterously proud of ignoring reality. Where'd you learn that skill?


Protip, first result on google. Give it a try sometime, it's a kinda handy tool.




https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/13/polit...aza/index.html

Your article that I've actually read before mentions that Israel used 40-45% unguided munitions. It doesn't specify which missions were deemed safe to use unguided munitions vs guided ones. It's also a question of money, if you have an area where you don't have civilians you don't have to use guided munitions.

Also that means that 55-60% of the time Israel used the more expansive guided munitions exactly so it could avoid unnecessary casualties.

Then it adds they typical anti Israeli CNN spin. What's next BBC?

Here's are a couple of questions for you:
1) how many of the missiles launched at Israel are guided munitions?
2) did you complain about those munitions being used in Syria by Asad, and Russia?

That's why Israel purchased, and used a huge amount of JDAMs since the start of the war. That's not enough though, you always demend perfection from Israel.

[Fuzz]

Ya, nevermind, you are absolutely not worth the effort. Keep cheering on your murderous team, one day it'll lead to peace, I'm sure.

[gvitaly]

Keep supporting terrorists, just because the media tells you they're the underdog.

Next time try actually living there, I did. I have family in the military right now, hopefully they live through this, and others in bomb shelters. None of them wants to kill Palestinians, but they won't accept a reality where they get peppered with rockets at will.

Actions have consequences. So start calling for the terrorists to waive the white flag and release the hostages.

[Fuzz]

Sure, OK. Hamas, release the hostages and surrender. Oh look, it didn't work, because they are terrorists. Next? Guess that means Israel has no other choice than to slaughter innocents, devastate the region, and continue to take land in the West Bank and destroy Palestinian towns and cities. Makes sense. They'll bomb their way to peace any day now.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Sure, OK. Hamas, release the hostages and surrender. Oh look, it didn't work, because they are terrorists. Next? Guess that means Israel has no other choice than to slaughter innocents, devastate the region, and continue to take land in the West Bank and destroy Palestinian towns and cities. Makes sense. They'll bomb their way to peace any day now.

No, no, next is for all those innocents to overthrow their Hamas buddies. Not let them use their houses, tents, to store weapons and shoot munitions. Not let them dig themselves within the population.

The population needs to keep cooperating with the IDF until the hostages are back and Hamas is disarmed.

Letting Hamas rebuild, and repeat everything in 5-10 years is your solution.

The key is for Israel to start distributing the aid going into Gaza instead of letting Hamas line their pockets with stealing it, and controling the people with food.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

No, no, next is for all those innocents to overthrow their Hamas buddies. Not let them use their houses, tents, to store weapons and shoot munitions. Not let them dig themselves within the population.

The population needs to keep cooperating with the IDF until the hostages are back and Hamas is disarmed.

Letting Hamas rebuild, and repeat everything in 5-10 years is your solution.

You should also start by not letting your terrorist family members kill more innocent people.

The Israeli population needs to take control of their terrorists and make sure they stop slaughtering innocents.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

You should also start by not letting your terrorist family members kill more innocent people.

The Israeli population needs to take control of their terrorists and make sure they stop slaughtering innocents.

Cute, calling my family terrorists. Even though you know nothing about them, you already assume they're killing innocents because they're Israeli. That just shows me you're a racist.

All those innocents that shoot rockets and fight in civilian clothes, sure.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Cute, calling my family terrorists. Even though you know nothing about them, you already assume they're killing innocents because they're Israeli. That just shows me you're a racist.

All those innocents that shoot rockets and fight in civilian clothes, sure.

Anyone in Hamas is a terrorist to me. Their friends and family dont have a right to be offended if they're called that.

Same goes to anyone in the IDF. They're all terrorists to me. People who love killing in the name of the group they belong to are terrorists.

I'm sure there are some Hamas members who are there for different reasons but they're still a terrorist. Same with the IDF. If you're part of an army that killed 15000 children in the last year then the blood is on your hands as well.

I'm against the killing of anyone innocent, unlike you.